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#120613 - 09/09/09 05:09 PM Re: Big Dogs and their weird owners..... [Re: ringtail]
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5 pages and a couple days.
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#120838 - 09/13/09 09:16 AM Re: Big Dogs and their weird owners..... [Re: bigb]
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Originally Posted By bigb
5 pages and a couple days.


An emotional issue, obviously!

I often take a 2-3 mile walk in a local state park. Dogs are allowed, but must be leashed. Also, owners must pack out any mess they make.

I often see dogs running leashless. Runners do this a lot - I guess they don't want the dog messing up their rhythm. So far I've only encountered friendly dogs. After reading some of the previous posts, however, I feel like maybe I should start carrying around pepper spray!

As much as I hate leashless dogs, what really burns me up is finding doggy poo smack dab in the middle of the trail.

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#120925 - 09/14/09 02:07 PM Re: Big Dogs and their weird owners..... [Re: MissouriWalker]
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I feel like maybe I should start carrying around pepper spray!


I used some on Tucker once when he was pulling a neighbors dog through the barnyard fence. Neither dog seem to notice it and I sprayed them right on their muzzles.

My pepper spray wasn't backpack quality though, it was purchased at an auto parts store and it was old.

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#120935 - 09/14/09 08:24 PM Re: Big Dogs and their weird owners..... [Re: billstephenson]
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Neither dog seem to notice it and I sprayed them right on their muzzles.


Animal control officers (they are now part of the police dept.) around here don't carry pepper spray anymore. They say it doesn't work on dogs. Ours carry cattle prod taser things and pistols. They use tranq darts if they have a distance and time advantage.
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#120941 - 09/14/09 09:01 PM Re: Big Dogs and their weird owners..... [Re: Dryer]
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Neither dog seem to notice it and I sprayed them right on their muzzles.


Animal control officers (they are now part of the police dept.) around here don't carry pepper spray anymore. They say it doesn't work on dogs. Ours carry cattle prod taser things and pistols. They use tranq darts if they have a distance and time advantage.


I heard *somewhere* and I'll be danged if I can find the reference right now, that capiscum (the hot stuff in peppers, and pepper spray) was mainly "hot" to some herbivores and omnivores. Things that tended to be closer to pure carnivore *tended* to not be sensitive or as sensitive to it, as the peppers evolved the stuff for dealing with herbivores. Might explain the lack of effectiveness on dogs, while being effective on people and grizzlies

I'm trying to find a reference to this as opposed to something I remember, and can't at the moment, so take it with a grain of salt.
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#120949 - 09/14/09 09:35 PM Re: Big Dogs and their weird owners..... [Re: phat]
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I don't know about pepper spray but have known a number of dogs who did not evn notice is food was heavily spiced with hot pepper.
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#120951 - 09/14/09 09:58 PM Re: Big Dogs and their weird owners..... [Re: phat]
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so take it with a grain of salt.


I think you mean "take it with a grain of pepper"
(salt and pepper. git it?)
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#120957 - 09/15/09 12:08 AM Re: Big Dogs and their weird owners..... [Re: Dryer]
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I am a letter carrier. Over a few years now I have sprayed dogs maybe 100 times. It has never once failed to immediately stop viscous attacks. We only use Halt brand and the same exact canisters are sold at bicycle shops. But think out another strategy for windy conditions. Mine was run for the truck!


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#120959 - 09/15/09 08:08 AM Re: Big Dogs and their weird owners..... [Re: Wasatch]
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We only use Halt brand and the same exact canisters are sold at bicycle shops.


A letter carrier gave me a can of Halt once but I never used it. I wonder if it has something besides pepper in it?

When I used to do lots of bike miles, simply raising my pump in the air, like I was going to strike...stopped all dogs. Except the one Sheppard that drug my friend off his bike, causing him to break his hip, and get bit....and the owner was worried about the dog, not the rider!
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