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#119034 - 08/03/09 10:52 PM planning a multi backpacking trip
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I am located in southern california and I am planning a trip around the west coast. I am actually gonna be moving to another country for a couple of years in September so I figure it would be a good time to go around and visit some friends. I plan to drive north to Washington, south-east to Utah, south to Arizona, then back to southern california. I'll be passing through Oregon, Washington, Idaho, Utah, Arizona on the way. I am going alone by the way.

I want to do some backpacking in each state as I pass through them. Probably only 2 days at a time. I've done a little bit of camping when I was very young, but other than that, I really have no experience in it.

I am thinking of going to Joshua Tree and King's Canyon in California. What are some good places to go to in the other states that I'll be passing through? Beginner trail suggestions would be appreciated. I want to plan it out as completely as I can before I head out.

I am not the type of person that needs much on trips. I just got back from a European trip with a small backpack. So I am thinking about carrying no more than 20 pounds. Since I'll probably be dealing with different types of environments, what kind of gear do you guys recommend? Assuming that money is not a big concern.

Do I really need to buy a stove if I am just going to be out for 2 nights max?
How much water should a beginner bring for 2 days?
I was thinking about getting a hammock instead of a bivy. Would a hammock work in a dessert environment?



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#119047 - 08/04/09 10:27 AM Re: planning a multi backpacking trip [Re: damian kao]
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For Utah, try the Lake Catherine trail. It is very short and a good beginner trail. It is also close to I-15 and SLC. It is up Little Cottonwood Canyon. Or, you could go down to Zions, that is off of I-15 as well.
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#119109 - 08/06/09 12:46 PM Re: planning a multi backpacking trip [Re: damian kao]
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A hammock won't work at all in the desert. In fact, I would avoid the desert completely this time of year, particularly as a beginner. Daytime temperatures at Joshua Tree will be over 100 degrees in the shade. Desert hiking is best from late fall to late winter.

As you work your way north you have literally hundreds of hikes in the Sierra to choose from. Personally, I would stay away from the crowds in the national parks and focus on lesser-known wilderness areas like Golden Trout, Dinkey Lakes and Emmigrant.
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#119129 - 08/07/09 08:39 PM Re: planning a multi backpacking trip [Re: damian kao]
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Originally Posted By damian kao


I am thinking of going to Joshua Tree and King's Canyon in California. What are some good places to go to in the other states that I'll be passing through? Beginner trail suggestions would be appreciated. I want to plan it out as completely as I can before I head out.


Kings Canyon is full of trails, but I'm not sure any of them will meet your needs - you will be doing a lot of climbing on many. Going to Sequoia would open up a number of options with easier grades. I would offer Long Meadow to Panther Gap to Mehrton Meadow to Alta Meadow, and on from the meadow cross country to Moose Lake, then back out. You could take a rigorous side trip to Alta Peak for the views from a base camp in Alta Meadow. There's also Pear Lake (from the same trailhead) for a good scenic overnight. Tons of options all over the park and surrounding wilderness areas - Jennie Lake loop is another great overnight. Ansel Adams wilderness has spectacular scenic vistas and is accessible from several directions - I just got back from a leg of the JMT starting in Yosemite and taking us through Ansel Adams. There are trailheads on the east and south sides of AA. Also Dinkey Lakes, Kaiser Wilderness (very close to each other) and Golden Trout (south of Sequoia).

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I am not the type of person that needs much on trips. I just got back from a European trip with a small backpack. So I am thinking about carrying no more than 20 pounds. Since I'll probably be dealing with different types of environments, what kind of gear do you guys recommend? Assuming that money is not a big concern.


I can only speak to hiking in the Sierras. 20 pounds for a beginner is light, and borderline dangerous if you are including food and water, and you do not have the skills to make the minimal gear work. In more extreme environments (the depths of snowy winter in mountains, for example) going light can be deadly. You'll need to do a lot of reading here, and check out the articles and gear lists posted on the mother site for this forum. I just got back from a five day trip I ended early - one of my group who claimed significant experience in backpacking showed up in shorts and t shirt, which he wore for the duration of the trip. It snowed on us and wind nearly blasted us off the map. Weather at elevation can change in a heartbeat. He spent most of a day inside his sleeping bag shivering. We took a shorter route to a different trailhead to get out.

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Do I really need to buy a stove if I am just going to be out for 2 nights max?
How much water should a beginner bring for 2 days?
I was thinking about getting a hammock instead of a bivy. Would a hammock work in a dessert environment?


You don't need a stove if you don't want/need hot food or beverages. You won't be able to build a fire in some locations (over 10,000 feet in most wilderness areas, over 9600 in Yosemite/SEKI... rules vary). You can make a pepsi can stove or supercat very easily for little to no investment - visit zenstoves.net for instructions on many different alcohol stoves.
You should bring a filter or water treatment. In areas where water is dangerous (near mines or industrial areas) or nonexistant (the desert) you will need to carry all your water, amount will vary - take how much you anticipate drinking during the day, add how much you will need for cooking or cleaning, and take a liter or two extra.

As for using hammocks... it depends on what you mean by "work." Hammocks can be used as bivies on the ground when you can't hang. I won't tell you that you can't hang in the desert, because I know that's been done before - it's possible to find places if you're creative. But as a hammocker I practice pitching the tarp on the ground, and study each route with an eye for terrain and possible reasons I might end up going to ground. Hammocks are a lot more versatile than tents in the respect that you can use them on hills, over brush or water, and even suspend them from rocks - I like my hammock in rain and even in wind. But not everyone hammocks all the time, every time. I do it as often as I can manage.
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