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#107486 - 12/08/08 10:20 AM Re: $200 and 20lb challenge [Re: phat]
finallyME Offline

Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 2710
Loc: Utah
I tried to do what you did phat, except I picked Walmart. Well, I failed miserably. If I looked online for it, all the good stuff said "not sold in stores". So, I opted for the online version. Here is my first attempt.

OP Pinnacle from Campmor
This weighs 3.5 lbs and is $60 not on sale.

Sleeping Bag
Marmot Tresle 15F
This one is $80 and 3.5 lbs.

Plastic tarp
The price for this is $6.99 and it is 9X11 ft tarp. It showed the shipping weight to be 2.5 lbs. I am guessing that the actual weight is half. Buy two, one for tarp and one for ground cloth.

Blue foam pad
This one is 8 oz and $10.99

Rain protection
Nylon poncho
This is 1 lb and $35.

With these, I am at $189.97 and 11.3 lbs. I still need cook kit with stove, water bottles, clothes, shoes. By using a super cat stove, a beer can pot, used soda bottles, and a spoon from McD's, those are all free. I don't have weights for them yet, though. Can you get clothes and shoes for $10 and under 7 lbs? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money.

#107487 - 12/08/08 12:31 PM Re: $200 and 20lb challenge [Re: finallyME]
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Registered: 06/24/07
Posts: 4107
Loc: Alberta, Canada

Plastic tarp
The price for this is $6.99 and it is 9X11 ft tarp. It showed the shipping weight to be 2.5 lbs. I am guessing that the actual weight is half. Buy two, one for tarp and one for ground cloth.

blue tarps are heavier than you think - mine of this size weigh about a kilo - so that's pretty
close. although I know there are different "grades" of them - some made of heavier materiel than others.

you get clothes and shoes for $10 and under 7 lbs? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />

At least with kids, I think a trip through the average kids' dresser would probably reveal at least 50% of what would be suitable to bring (sometimes closer to 90). I also think any
"beginner" can be begun with good socks and their regular running shoes. After that they can buy a dedicated "trail runner" or boot. Yes it means the "beginner" trip should probably
be on-trail enough so that doing it in runners is ok for a newbie. but that covers a lot of trail hiking. Yes some will need to buy a shoe. I know I *have* picked up light hiking boots for my kid at the thrift store for $10 before, so it's possible, but likely not something to consistently count on - in availablility or quantity - whereas finding fleece, windbreakers,
and nylon clothing in normal size at such places is usually pretty easy as long as you don't
care about brand names - (although I know I've seen patagucci clothing in the thrift store!)

I used to regularly take my kids there before hunting season, and buy 'em a couple of layers
that fit them each year. Cheap enough I didn't have to worry about it and they only wore
it hunting.
Any fool can be uncomfortable...
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#107488 - 12/08/08 08:01 PM Re: $200 and 20lb challenge [Re: phat]
OregonMouse Offline

Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 6760
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
Interesting discussion, and an excellent idea! Would it perhaps be a good idea to cross-reference this thread in the Beginners' section?

For more ideas, there are some articles, gear lists and forum posts on BackpackingLight about items for Scouts, specifically geared to Philmont. Fortunately, these are all free to non-BPL members. These are referenced on Mark Verber's website, which also lists inexpensive possibilities for each gear item in his "preferred gear" section.

There's also an interesting "ultralight, ultracheap" gear list on the Gossamer Gear website, in their gear list section. I suspect this is several years old, so the prices will need updating.

It is quite possible to get nearly all one's clothing, and a number of gear items, from thrift stores for next to nothing. It may take a number of visits, though.
May your trails be crooked, winding, lonesome, dangerous, leading to the most amazing view--E. Abbey

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