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#103789 - 09/25/08 04:58 PM Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions
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I'm looking for input and your experience with lightweight headlamps, say 2 oz. or less and preferably no more than 1.5 oz.

While I am very satisfied with the Princeton Tec headlamp that I've had for several years (can't remember the model but I think it's an older Eos), I'd love to find something lighter than its 3.3 ounces (with lithium batteries). I will continue to use the old one for short trips and dayhikes (especially for early spring, late fall and winter when I'm more apt to have to hike at night), but I'm looking to shave ounces for longer summer trips (shave enough ounces here and there and they do add up to pounds!).

Use will be for summer backpacking trips, some at high elevations (think Rockies) where it gets cold, often below freezing, at night. Any night hiking would be only in a dire emergency, but I need to be able to cook dinner, read in bed, exit the tent several times per night. I want to be able to use lithium batteries because they are lighter and longer-lasting, especially in cold weather.

I've been looking at the lighter weight headlamps. I have questions about all of them that aren't answered on the manufacturers' websites or with google searches.

Black Diamond Ion--this one looks like a relatively short battery life and has a weird battery, so unless some of you have better things to say about this one, I'll probably forget it.

Petzl E+ light--I've had bad experiences with Petzl in the past, but this one does look like the best of the really light-weight (under 1.5 oz.) headlamps. I'm concerned about water resistance in heavy rain and how well it will hold up under backpacking conditions. Will it break if my dog (80 lb.) steps on it?

Princeton Tec Scout--reviews have been bad, especially about its fragility, and, unlike other Princeton Tec headlamps, this one is non-regulated, [Edit: it uses 4 lithium coin-style batteries and does have a reasonably long battery life]. It seems a shame that Princeton Tec couldn't do better with this one. Is there any chance they'll improve it?

Mammut Lucido Tx Lite--This one looks very interesting but I can't find out anywhere, even on the manufacturer's website, if it is regulated or if it can use lithium batteries. With this one I'd save a little less than one ounce, (weighs 2.5 oz. with 3 AAA alkaline batteries) so I'm wondering if it's even worth bothering about. I haven't found any reviews, probably because it's quite new.

Zebra H50-Q5 headlamp--Another interesting one, fully regulated, can use lithium batteries (uses 1 AA). Weight with battery 2.0 oz. I have found good reviews but none from backpackers, so I don't know how well it will hold up in adverse backcountry conditions. Have any of you fellow-backpackers used this one? Unless it's really good, I don't know if I want to spend $49 plus shipping to save 1.3 ounces.

I'd greatly appreciate any input you folks can give me on these lights or on others that my research missed that meet my criteria.

Should I just stick with the headlamp I have and shave weight elsewhere? Or should I wait for technology to catch up with what I want? While I don't really need a lighter headlamp until next spring, I was hoping to put it on my Christmas gift wish list so I could get it for free!


Edited by OregonMouse (09/26/08 10:03 PM)
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#103790 - 09/25/08 08:19 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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I can only tell you about my experience with the Petzel E+ light. I have been using one now for over a year and have had good service with it. I most recently used it in hiking the JMT and, in particular, lighting my way from Guitar Lake up Mt. Whitney from a 3:00 am start. I had previously dropped the light into a pot of water that was on the stove (fortunately still cold) and it recovered with no problems at all. I'm not sure that this inadvertent test is comparable with being used in a PNW rainstorm but it does suggest that they are reasonably water resistant. Good battery life too!
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#103791 - 09/25/08 08:39 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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I can only comment on the e light - been using one for a year now, and like it enough I bought another just to have around.. I've drenched it, and dropped it, not stepped on it tho.. I like it a lot. It doesn't have the light output of my tikka plus, but it's good enough,
with enough battery life for reading at night without worry.
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#103792 - 09/26/08 07:31 AM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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Another to add to the list is the Fenix L0D. Out of all the ones you mentioned this has the easiest to change out battery (not counting the Zebra).
It is 0.8 oz WITH one AAA lithium AAA battery. I like that it can clip to your hiking hat or just carry it around on the key ring. And it’s easily adaptable to a bike light.

https://www.fenix-store.com/product_info.php?cPath=22_69_49&products_id=191

some specs (courtesy of above sight):
• Cree 7090 XR-E LED
• Five output modes: 30 Lumens(3.5hrs) -> 11 Lumens(8.5hrs) -> 75 Lumens(1hrs) ->Strobe -> SOS
• Four days of survival use (two continuous hours per day on the lowest setting)
• Uses one 1.5V AAA battery (not included), inexpensive and widely available
• 7.35cm (L) x 1.4cm (D) (or 2.9 in (L) x 0.6 in (D))
• 14.5-gram (or 0.5 oz) weight (excluding batteries)
• Made of aircraft-grade aluminum
• Durable Type III hard-anodized finish
• Toughened ultra-clear glass lens with AR coating
• Waterproof to IPX-8 Standards
• Capable of standing up securely on a flat surface to serve as a candle
• Input voltage: 0.8V~3.3V
• Reliable twist-switch
• Includes a spare o-ring, a split ring, and a pocket clip





“Will it break if my dog (80 lb.) steps on it?”

For the Fenix, since there’s no plastic, it would seem unlikely.

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#103793 - 09/26/08 04:08 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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The problem with button cell lights, including the e+lite, is the output drops from the minute they're turned on, and if you need it for an extended time you'll have to change batteries on the fly, which isn't so easy by braille in the dark.

That said, the e+lite is very slick and a good performer, and quite waterproof (IPX6 I think).

The Photon Rex is a nice alternative, super bright and field rechargeable. It's much brighter and broader than any button cell light. They don't yet have a headstrap for it, although they're planning on selling one. One could be rigged using stick-on velcro.

They're in short supply though, and not waterproof. For AAA lights I still like the PT Eos and Petzl Tikka XP.

Quote:
I'm looking for input and your experience with lightweight headlamps, say 2 oz. or less and preferably no more than 1.5 oz.

While I am very satisfied with the Princeton Tec headlamp that I've had for several years (can't remember the model but I think it's an older Aurora), I'd love to find something lighter than its 3.3 ounces (with lithium batteries). I will continue to use the old one for short trips and dayhikes (especially for early spring, late fall and winter when I'm more apt to have to hike at night), but I'm looking to shave ounces for longer trips (shave enough ounces here and there and they do add up to pounds!).

Use will be for summer backpacking trips, some at high elevations (think Rockies) where it gets cold, often below freezing, at night. Any night hiking would be only in a dire emergency, but I need to be able to cook dinner, read in bed, exit the tent several times per night. I want to be able to use lithium batteries because they are lighter and longer-lasting, especially in cold weather.

I've been looking at the lighter weight headlamps. I have questions about all of them that aren't answered on the manufacturers' websites or with google searches.

Black Diamond Ion--this one looks like a relatively short battery life and has a weird battery, so unless some of you have better things to say about this one, I'll probably forget it.

Petzl E+ light--I've had bad experiences with Petzl in the past, but this one does look like the best of the really light-weight (under 1.5 oz.) headlamps. I'm concerned about water resistance in heavy rain and how well it will hold up under backpacking conditions. Will it break if my dog (80 lb.) steps on it?

Princeton Tec Scout--reviews have been bad, especially about its fragility, and, unlike other Princeton Tec headlamps, this one is non-regulated, so probably can't use lithium batteries. It seems a shame that Princeton Tec couldn't do better with this one. Is there any chance they'll improve it?

Mammut Lucido Tx Lite--This one looks very interesting but I can't find out anywhere, even on the manufacturer's website, if it is regulated or if it can use lithium batteries. With this one I'd save a little less than one ounce, (weighs 2.5 oz. with 3 AAA alkaline batteries) so I'm wondering if it's even worth bothering about. I haven't found any reviews, probably because it's quite new.

Zebra H50-Q5 headlamp--Another interesting one, fully regulated, can use lithium batteries (uses 1 AA). Weight with battery 2.0 oz. I have found good reviews but none from backpackers, so I don't know how well it will hold up in adverse backcountry conditions. Have any of you fellow-backpackers used this one? Unless it's really good, I don't know if I want to spend $49 plus shipping to save 1.3 ounces.

I'd greatly appreciate any input you folks can give me on these lights or on others that my research missed that meet my criteria.

Should I just stick with the headlamp I have and shave weight elsewhere? Or should I wait for technology to catch up with what I want? While I don't really need a lighter headlamp until next spring, I was hoping to put it on my Christmas gift wish list so I could get it for free!
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#103794 - 09/26/08 09:59 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: Rick_D]
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Thank you, folks; please keep your comments coming!

After looking harder at the Princeton Tec website, the headlamp I currently have appears to be the Eos, since it has one larger LED bulb rather than several smaller ones. As mentioned, it's perfectly satisfactory except for its weight, and I will continue to use it except for longer trips in the summer. Paring down the weight is not so critical when I'm out for only 1-2 nights. It's when I go out for a week that it's critical, and I'll probably do that only in June through early September. One good thing about it is that if I load it with fresh lithium batteries, it will hold up for 10 days with enough reserve for a night hike out if there's an emergency. On my Wind Rivers trip, between the full moon and the altitude's making me so sleepy that I was in bed by 8 pm, too tired to read, I hardly used it at all.

I do carry one of those little "Photon" lights as backup. It's lighter than carrying extra batteries!

My previous experience with Petzl lights was with the Tikka--it kept popping open with the batteries falling out at the most inconvenient moments. Plus the bigger Petzl headlamps can't use lithium batteries.

What I get for a lighter headlamp does need to be waterproof and does need to be a headlamp. However, please note that it seldom rains in the Pacific NW in the summer. I'll be using my Eos in the rainy season. I'm more concerned about future summer trips to the Rockies.

Does anyone know if Princeton Tec plans to improve the Scout? It's a lot closer to what I want, if they'd just strengthen the clips that hold it to the headband.


Edited by OregonMouse (09/26/08 10:05 PM)
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#103795 - 09/27/08 07:06 AM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: Rick_D]
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Quote:
The problem with button cell lights, including the e+lite, is the output drops from the minute they're turned on, and if you need it for an extended time you'll have to change batteries on the fly, which isn't so easy by braille in the dark.

That said, the e+lite is very slick and a good performer, and quite waterproof (IPX6 I think).


I have found the output drops a bit (if I had to judge it I'd say about 30%) from my e-light
when it's on full power in the first hour. after that it's pretty constant until it's close
to dead. so I don't find this too much of a problem. I also hardly ever use the thing
at full power.. and with a button cell the spare battery is very light. I've had no problem
using it for reading and chores on a weeklong trip with one fresh battery (I carry a spare
anyway).

it's my goto light for non-winter. In winter where I'm more likely to use it more
and actually need full power light - I go back to my tikka plus.
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#103796 - 09/27/08 09:51 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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Quote:
Does anyone know if Princeton Tec plans to improve the Scout? It's a lot closer to what I want, if they'd just strengthen the clips that hold it to the headband.
Princeton Tec is looking at improving the Scout and you will probably see a change in the near future. They have improved the materials of the bracket that attaches to the headlamp, almost eliminating this problem of it breaking (according to customer service). I have had issues with previous models, but my current Scout has withstood much more abuse than the older ones I've used.

The only issue I have with the Scout is the batteries. PTEC sells a packet of 4 for around $5, but they aren't sold everywhere at this price. The good thing is that they are 2032 lithium cells which can be found anywhere, including gas stations. The bad new is that they are typically about $1.95 each...

I don't know if you've checked out the new PTEC Fuel headlamp. It is 2.6 ounces with alkaline batteries (just weighed mine on my Sunbeam scale), uses 3 AAA's, has a great switch, is bright, very water resistant (not waterproof), fairly small, rated at 35 lumens on high, made in the USA, and is only $25. The bummer is that it's not voltage regulated. I wouldn't recommend using it with lithium batteries, especially the newer Energizer lithiums. These are made to put out a burst of electricity for flash bulbs which is why Petzl posted on their website not to use them in any of their headlamps. This burst of electricity could potentially burn out the LEDs. Some of my buddies use lithiums in their Fuel headlamps, but I don't think that is wise.
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#103797 - 09/29/08 05:42 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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I experimented with using a Photon Max light as my primary (well, only) light for a couple of hikes. It's bright enough for around camp the first night, then the light level drops off a lot. On a 5-day hike this summer, it was unusable by the end of the hike. (Had a spare battery in the car -- not much help, alas.)

I've gone back to my Zipka, Yes, it's heavier, and yes, it uses AAA batteries, but it provides plenty of light and the batteries last several trips.

That said, those Fenix lights are *very* tempting.
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#103798 - 10/12/08 01:47 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: kbennett]
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Thank you very much to all of you who replied!

I just sent out my Christmas wish list to Santa (aka my grown children) and the Petzl e+Light was on it.

This is obviously an area to keep a close eye on developing technology.
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#103799 - 10/12/08 03:35 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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Mouse,
Hi
I've been using the princeton tec Scout for over a year without changing the batteries, in fact I was just noticing that you need a phillips screw driver to do it. I hate leds especially blue ones, but it has proven to be a worthy companion. I have never stepped on it, is that ok? I guess if I was going a long way it might need spare batteries and a screwdriver. I like AAA powered stuff better, yet this has been reliable and you can dim the output somewhat. I carry a photon on my pack harness as a backup, or to locate the head lamp.

This headlamp replaces my old prineton Solo 2xAA headlamp, which puts out much more light than the led model and is probably a better ski light anyway, and the batteries replace easily.

A climber needs far more light capability than a backpacker. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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#103800 - 10/13/08 10:17 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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I carried the e+lite for about 5 months of continuous backpacking this year (PCT), and had no trouble with it, still quite pleased with the choice. It's not the light to choose if you want to do much night hiking (unless you have a fairly full moon), but for just basic use in waking before dawn or setting up camp after dark it works fine.

Battery life isn't super long, but for me camp was just a place to sleep mostly, not to hang out and read or whatever. Per someone else's recommendation I ordered a bunch of the coin-type batteries via an online place (I forget where, do a search) and saved a bit of money in buying enough batteries for the whole trip in advance. About every 4rth trail town or so I would include a pair of replacement batteries with my resupply box and replace the batteries before they had run low. The only time I ran low was towards the very end of the trip when I got complacent, but the batteries are so lightweight that I had been carrying a spare pair, plus a small pinch-type LED as a backup. When they did run low it took me a while to notice, as it was still generating light, just ... less.

I never found a really great distinction between the high power and low power settings, and I have no use for the flashing function, but I really liked the option to use the red light to save my night vision, or in a couple of cases when sharing a room or camp space with others to have a light that was less annoying to others around me.


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#103801 - 10/14/08 08:01 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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I vouch for the Zebralight.

the only thing i had to do was clean the threads and make sure they were properly lubed but this was with the 1XAA twisty version.(believe they have at least one button switch version now).

this thing puts out a wall of light!! it's awesome.

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#103802 - 11/28/08 05:44 PM Rotate your LED flashlight batteries... [Re: OregonMouse]
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Not a recommendation for any specific headlamp, but may help in the use of a headlamp/flashlight.

My wife asked me to check the batteries in her LED headlamp as it was starting to dim out in use. The battery pack is the cylindrical type common to LED lights and uses 3 AAA batteries.

I tested the batteries and found that 2 were near full charge, while the third battery was totally dead. This seems to be a common problem with this type of light.

The obvious way to maximize battery life would be to periodically rotate the position of the batteries in the battery pack and allow the draw down of each battery to be equalized thru the life of the battery(s).

Just my 2 cents worth.

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#103803 - 11/28/08 05:52 PM Re: Rotate your LED flashlight batteries... [Re: atraildreamer]
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Interesting. Do think other electronics "draw down" inconsistently on batteries as well? Should I consider rotating AA/AAAs in all devices that use them, or would that be a waste of time?
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#103804 - 11/28/08 06:15 PM Re: Rotate your LED flashlight batteries... [Re: atraildreamer]
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The obvious way to maximize battery life would be to periodically rotate the position of the batteries in the battery pack and allow the draw down of each battery to be equalized thru the life of the battery(s).
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Interesting concept, but unless there is a trickle drainage path between the ends of the one battery position, all of the batteries should drain the same. You had to have mixed old and new cells. You say this is a common problem - really? Has this happened to you before? I have seen things that I would have swore were impossible so I have an open mind, but I have a lot of problem accepting your premise - still thanks for sharing it and perhaps you are correct and have discovered a new phenomenon. I would love to only have to change one battery to bring my dead light back, but in my flashlights, I have to replace ALL of them - oh well <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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#103805 - 11/29/08 08:03 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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I got the IR version of the Pak-Lite to use with my IR monocular at night.

It weighs in at 50g (1 3/4oz) with the Duracell alkaline 9volt battery, 54g with the strap. Wouldn't the lithium weigh less? They also say the lithium battery works in sub-zero temps, which implies to me that the alkaline won't. Not that that is a problem here.

They advertise burn times for the IR light of
Duracell Alkaline=75+ hrs. high, or 600+ hrs. low and
Ultralife Lithium=200+ hrs. high, or 1200+ hrs. low

I'm serously considering one of
these for backpacking. It also has a 3-way switch of 1led-off-2led's.

That one is advertised as
Duracell Alkaline=30+ hrs. high, or 600+ hrs. low and
Ultralife Lithium=80+ hrs. high, or 1200+ hrs. low (sold separately)

I assume the white light led's are within a gram or two of the IR led's.

(PS - I forgot the "headlamp" qualifier. Oops.)


Edited by coyotemaster (11/29/08 08:15 PM)

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#103806 - 11/30/08 04:30 PM Re: Rotate your LED flashlight batteries... [Re: Jimshaw]
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This has happened at least 4 times, the latest being last night when I checked another LED light. The batteries were still good, but one battery was showing a greater drain that the other two. In all cases, the batteries were new, out of the package, when installed.

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#103807 - 11/30/08 04:33 PM Re: Rotate your LED flashlight batteries... [Re: Folkalist]
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Quote:
Interesting. Do think other electronics "draw down" inconsistently on batteries as well? Should I consider rotating AA/AAAs in all devices that use them, or would that be a waste of time?


Why don't you try it? Can't hurt, and may help by extending the useful life of the batteries.

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#103808 - 12/02/08 06:32 AM Re: Rotate your LED flashlight batteries... [Re: atraildreamer]
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This is the one that I have. I've had it for years. I got mine at Wallyworld for @ $15.

http://www.amazon.com/Energizer-HD33AIEN...&sr=8-1



Actually, I just realized that the one that I have is a bigger model. It had 2 bright led's for a spot, 2 led's for a flood, a combo of the 4 and 2 red led's to help maintain your night vision. I use the red mode a lot in warmer weather as they don't attract as many bugs.



Edited by scottmphoto (12/02/08 06:40 AM)
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#103809 - 12/02/08 09:14 AM Re: Rotate your LED flashlight batteries... [Re: atraildreamer]
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“…periodically rotate the position of the batteries in the battery pack…”

For these type of flashlights (actually any item that batteries are in series and there is no circuit tapping off the middle of it), rotating the batteries won’t help. It’s all in the brand of alkaline. If you have this problem, stay totally away from that brand. You can’t afford these kind of failures in the field. Their capacities are all over the place. It’s like mixing carbon zinc with alkaline batteries.

I have seen this problem in alkalines from batteries.com (their own brand) and others.
Also, the generic lithium’s exhibit this problem thus I went back to the Energizer Lithium’s (AA size).

Good luck with batteries.
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#103810 - 12/03/08 09:39 AM Re: Rotate your LED flashlight batteries... [Re: scottmphoto]
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I actually think this is a great light for scouts due to the fact that they are so inexpensive. However, as with anything in life, you get what you pay for.

The better headlamps offer much more in terms of durability, consistent light output, better materials, more reliable and better switches, waterproof, better circuitry, etc. I look at the Energizer headlamps and think "disposable" and "toy" rather than a serious headlamp. I don't doubt that it will last beyond a few trips if taken care of, but if I'm relying on it for emergencies, multi-day trips, and more serious light output, then I believe there are better choices.

I don't mean to take away from you liking this headlamp, but it's also good to point out why some would spend a little more on a better quality product...
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#108116 - 12/20/08 06:54 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: OregonMouse]
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Posts: 778
Loc: California
I, too, have wanted a lighter headlamp than my Aurora. But my environmentalist side won't let me do it until I can get rechargeable battereies for those little guys.

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#110165 - 01/27/09 02:52 PM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: Paul]
Becks Offline
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Registered: 01/27/09
Posts: 18
Loc: Switzerland
Just some thoughts (don´t know if they can be applied here).

The most important thing to consider is the planned usage. if you only need it to read a book in the evening, to cook or maybe sort some gear, then a small headlamp is ok.

If you need a lamp which shows you the way in the night and possibly in difficult areas (lovely: wet rocks in the night, or rocks covered with some snow), then you shouldn´t concentrate on the weight too much. Light means security. if you loose the path, you might run into troubles.

My fav. at the moment are: Petzl Tikka XP (very good light, still doen´t weight much) nad my new Petzl Myo RXP. bedie these, I earlier used: Myo XP, Myo 5, Lucidio T60 (worst lamp ever) and some old fashioned lamps in even earlier years.

Becks

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#111757 - 02/23/09 12:35 AM Re: Lightweight Headlamp--need opinions [Re: ]
kevonionia Offline
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Registered: 04/17/06
Posts: 1322
Loc: Dallas, TX
Ken

Please tell us the name of those batteries. "Number of years ago"? 5? 10? Give us some clues.

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