Sterno stove

Posted by: cheap

Sterno stove - 01/31/08 06:30 PM

Well now i've gone and done it. I had a huge amount of indecision and bought a sterno stove that folds up. I figure that since I am summer backpacking in a relatively warm area that I could probably get by with a sterno for now.

It was a bit of an impulse buy at $4. It is made of stainless steel.
I was wondering if anyone has had some personal experience with them, or had any tips with use. Also handy would be some boil-to-time specs.

PS: Is there any way to get a sterno stove to simmer? I heard that you could partially cover the tin with some aluminum foil to help decrease the flame.

Thanks <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Posted by: Jimshaw

Re: Sterno stove - 01/31/08 07:53 PM

Cheap,
Since you ask, my first sophisticated camping stove was a folding sterno stove. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I thought it was pretty cool until my mom bought me a svea for my 19th birthday. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

You just set the lid part way on to simmer, <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />but it isn't that hot of a stove, simmering is kinda what it does. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> As the can gets hotter the flame gets stronger. And you set the lid on it to put it out.
Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
Posted by: Earthling

Re: Sterno stove - 01/31/08 08:39 PM

But it makes one heck'uva fondue stove <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted by: aceatc

Re: Sterno stove - 01/31/08 09:57 PM

My winter hiking partner uses a sterno stove that folds into this little box. I believe he made some soup last time, but I don't remember. He also used just the sterno to cook a hot pocket this one time, that was funny.

I'll have to talk to him about the performance of his stove, but he's only used it in winter which doesn't translate back to summer very well.
Posted by: TomD

Re: Sterno stove - 01/31/08 10:12 PM

Sterno is basically jellied alcohol. You can read about it on Wikipedia. Like liquid alcohol, it is a low energy per weight fuel; probably less than liquid alcohol because of the weight of the gel and some added water.

If you are looking for efficiency, Sterno isn't the ideal fuel. Simple, yes, efficient, no. The only time I recall seeing Sterno is under a chafing dish at a buffet.

If you want an alcohol stove, there are many good designs out there that require only modest skills to make, or you can buy one from a number of cottage stove makers.

Remember-making soup is not cooking-it's heating water.
Posted by: chaz

Re: Sterno stove - 02/01/08 05:15 AM

What is a svea stove?
Posted by: dla

Re: Sterno stove - 02/01/08 08:25 AM

Here are some ideas for your Sterno.

Have fun!
Posted by: Eric

Re: Sterno stove - 02/01/08 09:41 AM

The Svea stove is a great old institution of the wilderness traveler. Still being made but I don't know if the new ones are the quality of the original.
http://www.greatoutdoorsdepot.com/svea-climber-123r.html

A lot of us older guys have a nostalgic love for this noisy, heavy, cantankerous little beast.
Posted by: TomD

Re: Sterno stove - 02/01/08 05:50 PM

There is a thread somewhere on the Svea. A few of us still have them, me included.
Posted by: hootyhoo

Re: Sterno stove - 02/01/08 06:19 PM

Now you can change your avatar from a grill to a sterno can -that would be cool.
Posted by: NiytOwl

Re: Sterno stove - 02/01/08 09:30 PM

My Svea is in the "Gotta Go" bag. That's the bag I grab if all heck breaks loose and I "gotta go" right now. I figure as long as I can find a gas station or car with gas in it I have fuel for that stove.
Posted by: TomD

Re: Sterno stove - 02/02/08 12:17 AM

I would think twice about burning auto gas in a Svea. Even unleaded has a lot of additives you don't want to be breathing. Plus, I doubt the jet would last long on auto gas before clogging up. An XGK will burn almost anything flammable. They say don't burn alcohol in one, but I have done it when I couldn't get white gas.
Posted by: NiytOwl

Re: Sterno stove - 02/05/08 08:51 AM

I'm not advocating the use of unleaded gasoline in a Svea except in the emergency-only context of the "Gotta Go" bag. A "Gotta Go" bag is what you grab when you have to leave your home -right now- due to some impending life-endangering condition. Mine has everything I need to keep myself and 3 others alive for a week, DVD backups of all my irreplaceable files, etc.. From the moment of notification I can be on the road with my family in two minutes. The Svea just fit the nature of the bag because it was laying around, is mostly bomb-proof, and can burn the most common fuel in the US.
Posted by: finallyME

Re: Sterno stove - 02/07/08 09:06 AM

Quote:
A "Gotta Go" bag is what you grab when you have to leave your home -right now- due to some impending life-endangering condition. Mine has everything I need to keep myself and 3 others alive for a week, DVD backups of all my irreplaceable files, etc.. From the moment of notification I can be on the road with my family in two minutes.


Great idea NiytOwl. I have a 72 hour kit, which is similar, except yours is for a week, and mine is...well..not. I have been thinking alot about what stove to put in my kit. Do I put a small alchy, or an esbit? I have even considered some wood burners. But, I always come down to the same conclusion. If I am in an emergency were I have to leave home, I am making a fire. Then the only thing I have to carry is matches/firestarter and a pot of sorts to boil/cook. I would rather carry more food for the weight. But, that is just me. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
Posted by: chaz

Re: Gotta Go bag? - 02/07/08 09:25 AM

Could you post a list of the contents of your Gotta Go Bag? I have a good Idea of some of the stuff to put in it but the idea of enough for 3-4 people is good. Food? A tent? stove etc. I currently keep that kind of stuff in a rubbermaid container along with a list of homeland security instructions (hide under a desk and kiss you #@$ goodbye).
Posted by: Earthling

Re: Gotta Go bag? - 02/07/08 09:33 AM

Start a new thread don't jack the OP please, thank you.
Posted by: Spock

Re: Sterno stove - 02/09/08 03:51 PM

Cheap,
Sterno is about 60 percent water. Carry a small bottle of denatured alcohol along and when the sterno runs out, just pour a little denatured alcohol into the can and keep using it. Later, you can stuff a little fiberglass insulation in the can for a wick.

My first "ultralight" stove was a folding tripod that held a small sterno can and supported a 2.5 cup aluminum pot. A 1" high chimney fit on the sterno can to increase the efficiency. It was a pretty good cook set and weighed about 8 ounces. They used to air drop these to lost hunters and hikers in the old days.
Posted by: Earthling

Re: Sterno stove - 02/09/08 04:59 PM

Good idea Spock, and also, Perilite would work in place of the fibreglas if you placed a small screen over the Perilite to keep it in the can. If you get a spare lid you can poke some small needle like holes in it to make a alchy stove; and replace the solid cap to keep leftover alchy in the stove for the next meal. You'll have to fiddle with that as it's just an idea <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />