Except for my belly, not worried about weight

Posted by: Marc

Except for my belly, not worried about weight - 06/27/09 05:58 PM

I will never hike as what I perceive what most of you enjoy doing. I intend to pack weighted down and suffering for a minimal distance and then setting up camp for at least two days. I was reading the posts on the Primus Paklite Stove. It sounds ideal to me. I was only wondering if your views reflected ... well actually I am not sure. Forgive me but many times you may be steering me away from something which may be quite usefull to me. I truly respect your experience, but perhaps we are not hiking the same trail.
My point, if weight were no consideration, would this be a good stove to own or is there one you would prefer such as the pocket rocket. Unless any of you can convince me otherwise I think the Primus Paklite will serve it's purpose. Daisey told me to just boil water.
Posted by: Glenn

Re: Except for my belly, not worried about weight - 06/27/09 08:58 PM

I can't say for sure whether this stove will work for you; my only exposure to it is reading about it on REI's web site. Also, I don't know how you like to cook and eat - that's hugely important in choosing a stove.

I can tell you that I frequently use a Jetboil stove, and my most complex meal is a Lipton side dish, which requires minimal cooking. If the REI stats are true, and the system only weighs 17 ounces, you're within an ounce of the Jetboil.

However, I also frequently use an Snow Peak stove with a Trek 1400 titanium pot - the whole thing weighs half a pound less than this stove.

My point is that both systems perform equally well. A pound for an entire kitchen is reasonable, if you'll be doing some simmer-and-stir type cooking. If your style is just to boil water to add to a freeze-dried meal or instant oatmeal, it's overkill.

Don't let us talk you into or out of anything. Fit your gear to your style; you're the one who has to carry and use it. (I learned very long ago that They might know what works for Them, and I could seriously reduce my learning curve by listening to Them, but I also had to know when not to.)

Good luck - if you get it, let us know how you like it.
Posted by: thecook

Re: Except for my belly, not worried about weight - 06/27/09 09:00 PM

What makes it ideal for you? For one or two people I use a homemade alcohol stove with a grease pot from K-mart (total weight 7.5oz plus fuel) because I can steam real rice (not dehydrated) on it and it is light. For bigger groups I use a snowpeak gigapower and a 2 litre aluminum pot (total weight under 10oz plus the fuel and weight of the cartridge). For winter I use a MSR whisperlight with a 2 litre pot and a large coffee pot (total weight over 2lbs) for melting snow. Primus makes good stoves. What it is about this stove that you like better than any other possibility? If you have a good answer to that, it probably is the right stove for you. Just remember (as you seem to do)that you are posting in an area dedicated to lite gear and since Etapacklite is on the heavier end you'll get recomendations for other, lighter possibilities.
Posted by: Marc

Re: Except for my belly, not worried about weight - 06/28/09 06:03 AM

Cook
To be honest I have no clue why the Primus stove would be ideal for me. I guess I just like how it looks to be all-in-one, compact, and easy to use. I have made several alcohol stoves ( cat food cans ) and I will get one of those pots from Kmart as you suggested. It may be that with practice that is all I will need. I must admit I have given very little thought as to what I will actually be eating. Starting from ground zero, I have been focused on and slightly overwhelmed just deciding what gear I want.
I love the information I get here and enjoy just reading the stories. I suppose I tend to think of this forum as just about hiking and camping, being outdoors, and forget that you are truly dedicated to traveling light. I certainly mean no disrespect and I apologize if I have come across that way.
Once I have gained enough experience doing things my way, I imagine the food situation will take care of itself. I have the feeling I will be living on a steady diet of crow.
Thanks for your help and I will try to be more thoughtful in any future posts.
Posted by: phat

Re: Except for my belly, not worried about weight - 06/28/09 08:05 AM


If you're not sure, think about menu before you think about stove, and I'll give you this - I love alcohol stoves and use one most of the time, however, as someone getting into it and a little overwhelmed you might want to consider some kind of small canister stove first, because they are easy to use, not fiddly and you can do pretty much any sort of cooking on them. By all means try the alcohol stove method, and if you can put together a menu of food you like that pretty much only requires boiling water they will work great. Most importantly, try cooking and eating what you'll be doing on the trail at home first. make sure you like it.

Posted by: 300winmag

Re: Except for my belly, not worried about weight - 06/29/09 01:51 PM

Marc,

Personally I like the Primus PacLite stove for its very high efficiency. If I were in the market for a new stove and cookset combo that's the one I'd choose. I'm a fan of the pot-bottom heat exchanger idea which is almost identical to the JeBoil "Flux Ring". I use the JB 1.5 L. pot with all my stoves.

BUT, that said, I would carry only the stove, pot & lid, windscreen, fuel canister and a Cool Whip bowl. Everything else in the set I'd leave at home.

Eric