Got a new toy courtesy a good friend.

Posted by: phat

Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 02:49 AM


.. who is from Switzerland. We were on the trail together this summer. After taking him to MEC to buy a whisperlite for his group trips at home, he mentioned they cost half here what they do in switzerland. I casually mentioned on the trail that if he needed another I'd just mail him one - he could always mail me something crazy swiss like one of the old borde stoves...

Well, while I had completely forgotten about that offhand comment, he had another mutual friend mule something back across the pond when they met up at a conference, and secret it onto my desk without my advance knowledge - finding this on my desk at work was a real shocker.

This thing is tiny, light and cool. while I'll have to be careful with it - I think I owe my friend a stove in the mail, or some other cool piece of Canadian gear. This is going out with me this winter.





Posted by: intrek38

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 03:13 AM

I found something simular on youtube a while back only using a glass jar instead. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heFGGPSMvR8
Posted by: phat

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 03:16 AM


That's a neat video - I've seen others similar, but that shows the process better.

However, note, the borde stove I'm showing is not an alcohol burner - it burns white gas (or gasoline)
Posted by: intrek38

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 03:26 AM

Apparently it uses white gas as well. But seems a little to risky with glass... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToaP-j7vnIM&feature=related
Posted by: intrek38

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 03:38 AM

Sorry, I just had to throw this one in as well cause it's kinda cool..http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HLjZfT-2Apw&NR=1
Posted by: leadfoot

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 08:13 AM

awesome

How do yo set a cooking pot on it? Just way too cool.
Posted by: hikerduane

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 08:51 AM

Do your co-workers think it is a bit large for a cigar lighter?:)
Posted by: Rick_D

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 04:44 PM

Wow, that's a neat little gizmo. Considering white gas has roughly twice the energy density of alcohol, I could see something like this being the heat source for a small and powerful boil-and-serve cook set.

(I could also see it not passing the lawyers' muster, but that's another topic.)
Posted by: Franco

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 05:45 PM

Wow!
That looks about 5" long so it should take around 8 oz of fuel ?
What is its weight ?
Franco
Posted by: phat

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 06:10 PM


It was somwhere about 260 grams or so empty, so about 9 oz. I didn't measure the fuel when I put any in it but I'd say yeah, I'd say somewhere about 200 to 250 ml of fuel capacity.


Posted by: Jimshaw

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 10:45 PM

Seems a lot like a svea 123 without the hotplate. A neat little stove. Now weld it to a titanium coffee cup!
Jim
Posted by: Franco

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 10:49 PM

Thanks for that. Not sure how practical it can be but it sure looks beautiful. Must do some research on that...
I had an uncle in Geneva that made useful but beautiful items out of brass (I think) bomb shells.
Franco
Posted by: Jimshaw

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/24/08 11:12 PM

phat

whats the contraption on top? Is it a valve hot plate? We need a better close up shot please.
How much heat does it put out?
Jim
Posted by: Franco

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/25/08 12:27 AM

Now I remember. It's the Border "bomb" stove that I came across here :
http://www.thebackpacker.com/trailtalk/thread/46841.php
nice picture of what it looks like a newer version (Stainless steel ?)
http://zenstoves.net/Petrol.htm scroll down
if you go there take a look at the Modular Individual Water Heater further down, the experimental version looks interesting. Not that practical because it uses "military fuel" JP 8 , but maybe it could be adapted to white gas (?)
Franco
Posted by: phat

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/25/08 01:26 PM


The contraption on top is the flame spreader and also the valve, it unscrews to adjust the output. so you stick a wire
or twig in to move it around.

Heat output seems pretty comparable to my svea. it'll go like
heck when it's warmed up. With those big generator coils it does
seem to warm up a lot quicker than the svea.
Posted by: GrumpyGord

Re: Got a new toy courtesy a good friend. - 12/26/08 06:36 AM

The stove looks neat so I did a Google search and found that they occasionally come up on Ebay. The last one sold for $195. They are not that neat to me.