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#119377 - 08/14/09 10:37 AM Good Rain Shell Suggestions?
MattnID Offline
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Registered: 06/02/07
Posts: 317
Loc: Idaho
So, as of late I've been fairly unhappy with my cheap $20 rain shell I bought a long time ago but haven't really used that much. I've got all the gear I need these days and anymore it is merely refining it over time now, and since last weekend it was raining for 2 1/2 days(we got around 10x the rain in that period than we average in August) and I was out in it, I got to thinking about a new rain shell.

The one I currently have works fine in keeping a light rain off of me, but of course it doesn't breathe and I doubt it would hold up against any kind of sustained, all day rain. So while it keeps out of the rains I've encountered, wearing it too long means I just end up making it into a sweat bag. Luckily for me, last weekend wasn't too cold(40's and 50's where I was at) and I just wore a long sleeve shirt that was quick dry, plsu the rain was on its tailend.

So, I'm looking for something that is far more breathable, not expensive(no more than $200), and something that might even have some sort of meager insulation would be cool(I think I've seen a few like that). I ask about the slight insulation thing merely because I would really only need this in cold rain situations like I almost had to deal with last weekend. I've yet myself to actually go out and look at anything myself as of late, but that'll probably be happening here shortly. But I was hoping some folks had some good experiences with their rain shells and would share and/or critique what they've used.

Thanks.

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#119379 - 08/14/09 11:03 AM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MattnID]
Glenn Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 2617
Loc: Ohio
I like my Patagonia RainShadow pants and jacket a lot. I think Patagonia is having a summer sale right now; the last time I looked, I think both were on sale, for a total right around $125 (regular price is $250.) Great price for excellent quality, lightweight garments. I didn't check size availability.

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#119382 - 08/14/09 11:16 AM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MattnID]
mosquito Offline
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Registered: 05/13/06
Posts: 86
Loc: Minnesota
I use a packa and love it.
http://www.thepacka.com/

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#119394 - 08/14/09 04:12 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MattnID]
jpanderson80 Offline
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Registered: 07/28/06
Posts: 292
Loc: Memphis, TN
I've used the North Face Guide Jacket, a North Face HyVent jacket and a Driducks jacket. All work fairly well. The Driducks is the lightest. On my last trip, I just walked in the rain for 3-4 days... no jacket needed. smile
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#119397 - 08/14/09 04:41 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: jpanderson80]
CCH Offline
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Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 124
Loc: Colorado
+1 for the Rain Shadow. Nice stuff particularly at the sale price. Planning on adding the pants to my jacket with this current sale. Pretty light for the features (long pit waterproof pit zips). Mine weighs 11 oz. in XL.

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#119423 - 08/15/09 05:29 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MattnID]
CWF Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 266
Cabelas has some great prices on Paclite Jackets (under $100 on sale). I use the Outdoor Research Zealot, which is also Paclite and very light (8oz). They are discontinued (replaced by another model) but can be found for around $100 at some retailers.

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#119452 - 08/16/09 05:30 PM Good Rain Shell > Rainy River PacLite [Re: MattnID]
300winmag Offline
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Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
My Cabela's Rainy River Gore-Tex PacLite parka and pants are just about the best value anywhere.

Parka> $99. Great quality & details & MANY sizes.
Pants> $99. Zip to knees & hip poocket stuff sack.

Try to beat those prices in Gore-Tex PacLite. Same garantee as REI. Don't like it at ANY time return it for a full refund.

Eric
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#119458 - 08/16/09 08:15 PM Re: Good Rain Shell > Rainy River PacLite [Re: 300winmag]
CWF Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 266
Backcountry.com currently has the OR Zealot Paclite Jacket for $79.95. Okay - I beat it.

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#119526 - 08/18/09 09:35 AM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: CCH]
CCH Offline
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Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 124
Loc: Colorado
Somehow I either mis-weighed or mis-typed the info into my gear list as my Rain Shadow is actually a more hefty 14.5 ounces in XL. Sorry for the wrong info!

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#119529 - 08/18/09 10:58 AM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: CCH]
Spock Offline
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Registered: 01/10/06
Posts: 679
Loc: Central Texas
If durability is not critical, DriDucks are cheap and light and breath and lasted for an entire AT thruhike with no problem whatsoever. I used them for rain, wind, cold and bug protection.

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#119619 - 08/20/09 05:17 PM Re: Good Rain Shell > Rainy River PacLite [Re: CWF]
300winmag Offline
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Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
CWF,

I bow to your Scottish Thrifty Price Research Institute. Get that OP GTX jacket while it's hot.

Eric
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#119623 - 08/20/09 06:34 PM Re: Good Rain Shell > Rainy River PacLite [Re: 300winmag]
CWF Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 266
Hey, my Father is Scottish - how did you know?

Crazy thing is, it was actually $59.95 the first day they went on sale. Should have jumped then!

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#119810 - 08/24/09 02:58 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MattnID]
glsmaverick Offline


Registered: 12/18/08
Posts: 23
Loc: Grand Blanc MI
There have definitely been some good, cheaper options pointed out but I would just like to put in my vote for Mountain Hardwear Typhoon jacket. Its Paclite as well. I have one and its a winner in my book. It has kept me bone dry in numerous downpours and has held up well in many different conditions. Its more expensive than the shells already discussed but it still falls under $200!

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#119824 - 08/24/09 09:12 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MattnID]
Echterling Offline
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Registered: 08/21/09
Posts: 52
Loc: USA
The old technology becomes new again. . . after giving up ponchos years ago in favor of Gore-tex, and then becoming horribly disappointed, I've started to favor ponchos again for warm weather rainy conditions because they are more versatile and vent more.

For example, you can raise up your poncho and take photos with your camera protected from the rain. Similarly, you can get underneath the poncho to read the map.

Obviously, ponchos have their limitations, but I think they are worth considering.
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#119826 - 08/24/09 09:50 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MattnID]
bigfoot2 Offline
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Registered: 09/17/06
Posts: 1432
Loc: Eugene , Oregon
This is the best rain protection i have found. 100% breathable, too !

http://www.backcountrygear.com/catalog/accessdetail.cfm?PRODUCTS__ProductID=GO9011

BF cool
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#119833 - 08/24/09 11:34 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MattnID]
Trailrunner Offline
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Registered: 01/05/02
Posts: 1835
Loc: Los Angeles
+1 for the Dri Ducks or the similar Frog Toggs unless you plan to bushwhack. Cheap, waterproof and very breathable.

I brought a Dri Duck hooded jacket on a trip where it wasn't supposed to rain so I left my regular hardshell at home. But Mr. Murphy had other ideas and I wound up skiing in rain/wet snow for a couple of hours. That jacket performed just as well as my other more expensive shells. It just doesn't have lot of bells and whistles. But it is very light.

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#119895 - 08/26/09 10:47 AM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MattnID]
Dano Offline
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Registered: 08/26/09
Posts: 1
Loc: Ga
We have found that the campmor poncho/tarp works pretty well.

http://www.campmor.com/outdoor/gear/Product___20275

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#120119 - 08/31/09 05:23 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MattnID]
BarryP Offline
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Registered: 03/04/04
Posts: 1574
Loc: Eastern Idaho
“So, I'm looking for something that is far more breathable, not expensive(no more than $200), and something that might even have some sort of meager insulation would be cool(I think I've seen a few like that).”

It’s a tricky choice for me. I love my 6 oz umbrella.
I love my 1.5oz 50¢ poncho that also covers my pack.
I love my 5oz o2 rain jacket. I find this more breathable than the poncho.

Yep it seemed to be raining all over ID. I was just there for a few days (Aug 22-25th). It poured on the 23rd. I enjoyed eating breakfast out in the rain with my o2 jacket in Hagerman ID. Wow beautiful place.

For 40F weather, I usually use the o2 with 2 underlayers.

The poncho or o2 is dual-use for me. In the morning, I plop all my packs contents on the rainwear to keep my items clean while I pack my bag.

-Barry

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#120266 - 09/03/09 03:48 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: BarryP]
300winmag Offline
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Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
Ponchos are not nearly as warm as rain parkas in cold & rainy weather. Also ponchos, being of non-breathable fabric, get very wet around the shoulders and upper chest.

In warmer rainy weather I wear my Cabela's PacLite poncho over my pack W/ the hood on my head and arms wrapped around my lower shoulder straps. This gives enough protection in a light rain and keeps me from sweating inside the poncho.

Eric
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#120336 - 09/04/09 11:10 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: 300winmag]
MedicineMan Offline
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Registered: 01/05/03
Posts: 234
Loc: Northeastern TN
I have a collection of rain jackets from 35+ years of backpacking. Every time a model would come out that would save me 2ounces I would order it. 2 ounces was my cut off point, it had to save that much or more before I'd spend the money. I ended up using a an Ion for the last several hundred miles of trail.....always rain jackets. My experience with ponchos was 36 years ago---this has recently changed with the aquisition of a Packa.
You can read the reviews, study the pros/cons...really all I can say is why did I wait so long for this piece of kit! The latest rendition is expertly assembled and is now my go to piece for rain. I couple it with a pair of MLD gaiters for leg protection and sometimes a pair of MLD mitts. One critical thing is the hood and Packa got that right too.
Weight is 11 ounces and I agree with other reviewers that jacket and pack cover and the Packa wins. I wish I could get by with just a cape but the flapping and the material getting in the way when reaching for something were just too anoying. The Packa has the advantages of the poncho and a jacket and the pack cover is a big bonus.

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#120548 - 09/08/09 02:09 PM Re: Good Rain Shell Suggestions? [Re: MedicineMan]
300winmag Offline
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Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
Medicine Man,

Thanks for the info on the Packa. I bookmarked the website and saw that the owner/inventor is considering an eVent Packa. Now THAT interests me. He has no middlemen or store to support so costs will be reasonable. A very clever idea whose time has come. This is far better than the extended rain ponchos/pack covers.

Eric

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