Hello phat,

For most of my backpacking history I only boiled water for tea/hot chocolate, ramen and freezedried dinners, nothing for breakfast or lunch.

My breakfast usually runs to a single guys staple....Poptarts! Lunches are the usual; gorp, jerky etc. What I am shooting for is replace my dinner with liquid meals (Perpetuem, Endurox R4 and Met Endurance).

I have been using them for years as recovery drinks for cycling. I have been able to ride 14 centuries in 14 days and these recovery drinks were the only way to adjust my body to that kind of stress.

The thing for me is that I get my dose of caffeine in the form of tea each day. As long as I can get it hot of cold it makes no difference.

Let the grand experiment begin next week (the Tahoe-Rim-Trail). If this works out I will do a version of the Muir Trail in august before I dream of the PCT some time in the next few years.

Randy