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Well, probably the other reason for that is I depend on clothing...toque to extend the range of my exped wallcreeper down into sub-freezing.


Very good point. With this clothing kit, I as well wear it in conjunction to when it gets below freezing inside my bag. But I must also make the point of this whole kit is for the 3 season use. When it is early spring and winter a lot changes in the clothing department, and a lot more goes in. MEC -3 C (27 F) Merlin bag (in place of the WM), down pants and booties, winter gloves, MB Down Parka, gaiters, and away goes the tarp and out comes the tent etc etc, but still I keep my weight down the best I can. Also switching from fleece to down will really lighten up your loads.


Agree completely on the switching from fleece. I actually show my "typical" list as well. I actually
take primaloft or down in warmer conditions, or if I am on the ground. However, the one thing fleece
has all over down or pimaloft is it is a zillion times better when compressed - so if I'm hammocking
in cold weather, I often will still bring fleece. My other reason to love a hundredweight fleece it I'm convinced it makes great raingear - I get wet but stay warm. Ya can't do that with down. However
I'm always pretty conscious that when I take fleece I'm taking weight I could reduce with a primaloft
or down piece in the right conditions.

And note for any other readers, the reason I even *asked* the question in the first place was not to convert myself, or you, or anyone else - I wanted to know his "system" and how I may use his system to potentially adapt mine to lighter weights in certain conditions <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Personally, I never "convert" - I adapt <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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