Last week I received my Helinox ground chair. Without it's stuff sack, it weighs in at 1.3 lb. And packs down to 4.5"d x 11.5"..a bit bigger than I'd like but doable. I will take it on this summers hike. If I get totally disgusted with it mid way thru,I will ditch it in my cache bucket. Now if mother nature cooperates and this years record snow melts enough by mid Aug. all is a go.I will report on the chair afterwards. Thanks to all who replied.