Thanks Glenn for your information. I was in REI about a year ago and most of the packs they had then didn't have pouches. The clerk mentioned that fewer packs were coming out with pouches.

This spring I 'll check out the backpacks in more detail. I live about 80 miles from rei and that's the best nearby option. I haven't seen the Exos in person yet, just pictures and reviews. I plan to get my pack weight down to 30 lbs. In the past with my Camp Trail pack the weight has averaged 40-45 lbs.

Hopefully I can check out the Atmos AG series and Kestal 48 while I'm there. I plan to bring all my gear to put in the packs to test both weight and volume.

The Exos 58 is appealing because of it's weight and awesome reviews on different sites but I remain open minded since it all comes down to how I like the fit and comfort. Availability is also an issue since I live in a rural area without too many shopping options.