well I waited along time for MEC.CA, to fill my order, i even emailed gregory about it ( they said MEC hasn't oredered any in until spring! anyways long story short, mec did make an order, and I finally got my pack...

its nice, well built, lots of straps though, and for a 65l pack, and me triing my best to go lite, I won't be able to carry much gear for my daughter, going to have to rethink my stratgy on this...I loaded it up with just me gear, and weighed it on the home scale 34lbs, alos weighed it on my back, and then just myself, again 37lbs...

so the weight is good, feels good, but not enough room...