I think the ultimate grocery pannier might be the Wald folding baskets, but I sew, not weld.
The new panniers are done and here is a pic.
http://s2.photobucket.com/albums/y23/tbdesigns/sewing/?action=view&current=gropan6_8_1.jpg
scott
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