So I was reading the manual that came with my Whisperlight International, and it says that Gasoline will cut the stoves useful life short.
So I was wondering if anyone knew why that would be?
I'm thinking about changing it out to burn Kerosene or diesel because of this and wanted to know your opinion on the matter.
By the way I am glad I went with the Whisperlight instead of the XGK stove, this thing weights almost nothing. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Registered: 04/18/03
Posts: 279
Loc: Puget Sound, Western Washingto...
They cut down the life because those fuels don't burn as clean and leave soot and deposits in the system. That builds up over time and creates problems. White gas is your best best, and is readily available in most foreign countries I've been. I like having the option to burn other fuels in emergency situations, but for general use, I use white gas only.
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I'm pretty sure the warning refers to automotive gasoline, not to white gas or Coleman fuel, which you can run with no problems (and generally better performance than diesel or kerosene).
Automotive gasoline is full of nasty additives and you really don't want to burn it in your stove if you can avoid it.
Registered: 02/23/03
Posts: 2124
Loc: Meadow Valley, CA
I have had mine for over 20 years and upgraded about 10 years ago to the newer braided brass? fuel line. I can see the cable was getting some carbon build up on it at the time. I have always used Coleman fuel, being a stove newbie years ago, i opted for the Internationale, which since, I realize, was unneeded. The regular Whisperlite would have been all I needed. REI used to have some equipment comparisons in their catalogs, which I haven't seen for a bit now. I believe, the Internationale, for whatever reason, would run a little more efficiently. Please correct me on this if wrong.
I went with a Multi-Fuel stove because some places I've been camping to, going to any decent "camping supply" or similar is a hour or more away by car, so I figured burning Gasoline, Kerosene, or diesel all easier to find then white gas would be handy at times.
My Moose hunting spot is in the middle of Northern Ontario, I doubt there is a store near by that has White Gas (never check though). Which is a 4 hour drive to get more fuel, when Gasoline/Diesel is literally a 30 minute drive to the nearest village.
I know dumb question but when I got the stove I couldn't find any bottles at Bass Pro, so I didn't manage to pick one up with the stove, but I was wondering if anyone had rough dimensions of the bottles so I can purchase it and the pouch to store it in on the net without worrying they wont fit. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
Registered: 02/23/03
Posts: 2124
Loc: Meadow Valley, CA
If you are out moose hunting don't you have wheels close by or a pack animal? Even a quartered moose has to weigh quite a bit. Buy the white gas before you leave town, unless you live way out in the sticks. K1 kerosene should be pretty clean, I'm sure with the Toyo and Monitor stoves out now, you would be able to find a source even in smaller communities or even a hardware store. Good luck, happy hunting.
Yes we have a couple of trucks close by, but our cooking is done by Coleman propane BBQ, this was just a situation where I may be unable to get white gas. As I do plan on still using this little guy while moose hunting. For making myself a quick cup of instant coffee for example. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />
Registered: 10/30/03
Posts: 4963
Loc: Marina del Rey,CA
Dimitri, Any fuel bottle should work-I have ones made by MSR (an old one, not a red one),Sigg and Brunton-they are all basically made the same and have the same threads. I have two different pumps-Optimus and MSR and they are interchangelable with all the bottles.
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Depends on the size of the bottle dimitri. a 22 oz MSR bottle is about 3 inches in diameter and 10 inches high, thereabouts - however there are bigger and smaller versions. You may have difficulty finding a bottle for the stove in Canada, as our government recently imposed a whole whack of stupid restrictions on fuel bottles, so the MSR ones aren't sold in canada at the moment. MEC is now stocking Optimus fuel bottles, which will work with your whisperlite and MSR pump... a 4L jug of white gas will burn for an awful long time in that whisperlight of yours, so if you drag one into camp you shouldn't have to sweat resupply too much, and I don't know about Ontario, but every little nowhere town in rural Alberta usually has white gas/coleman fuel in the town hardware store or gas station - the only trick when moose hunting is getting there when they are open.
So stuff labeled Coleman Fuel is actually white gas? Interesting I didn't know that. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
As for the MSR bottles not being sold here, there is nothing wrong with me ordering it from the USA is there? Cause thats what I was going to do. I like the Red color of them (donates fuel/fire even to people who would have never seen one before) compared to the silver ones etc I've seen.
As for the sizing, 3" by 10" is the prefect size for the pocket if it was a inch shorter. Maybe I'll cut that ring off the cap to fit it. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
If you want a carry it type, you want to order an 11 oz MSR fuel bottle from the states, they are only about 6 inches high.
And yes, coleman fuel is white gas (basically) - you'll also see generic brands in canadian stores like "recochem" etc. labelled "camping fuel" - often with a picture of a coleman lantern on it. they'll all work fine in the whisperlight.
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