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#96047 - 05/11/08 08:19 PM Marmot PreCip
mtnman Offline
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Registered: 12/09/06
Posts: 76
Loc: WA
Thinking about getting the jacket. Who has one and do you like?

Thanks for your input!

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#96048 - 05/11/08 09:38 PM Re: Marmot PreCip [Re: mtnman]
Tango61 Offline
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Registered: 12/27/05
Posts: 931
Loc: East Texas Piney Woods
I have one. Don't like it. Sweat too much. But, don't have anything better - yet.

Tango

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#96049 - 05/11/08 09:54 PM Re: Marmot PreCip [Re: mtnman]
johndavid Offline
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Registered: 04/23/08
Posts: 260
Loc: jersey city NJ
Dan ("Potatoe") Quayle, was a board member of k2 Sports, parent company of Marmot. This, for me, is a disincentive to purchase Marmot products. However, company was acquired (again) a year ago, and I suppose he's cashed out of it by now...

Yet I've owned a PreCip for several years. I'd intended to buy a "Red Ledge" brand for slightly less money, but on comparing the two, I sprung for the PreCip. Neither are premium jackets.

But the jacket (and pants which I also got) is nearly as light as such garments come. Also nearly (not quite) the cheapest price point. These considerations are mainly what guided me to the purchase.

One hears that there are superior fabrics in terms of breathability. I rely on a windshirt for wind protection in dry or slightly damp conditions and reserve the rain jacket for rain & snow. I figure in heavy rain & such, with exterior fabric dripping wet, breathability isn't really attainable no matter what the fabric. Yet it can be a highly desirable attribute.

The PreCip at least has pit zips and the zippered pockets can also provide somewhat significant ventilation. Both design features, in my view, are highly desirable in a rain jacket of any brand.

My main concern is that PreCip isn't going to hold up to massive abrasion. If you're looking for a garment to use as daily streetwear, or other heavy use, the Marmot PreCip would probably wear out fairly quickly. Mine is going strong after four years of light use, and at current rate, might last at least another ten years.

Prior to this purchase I relied almost entirely on a 1970s REI cagoule, coated with poly urethane. It worked fairly well and I rarely complained about its lack of breathability. In particular, I found in cold and windy weather, this wasn't a problem. Having gained 20 pounds, I now find sweat more of an issue.





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#96050 - 05/11/08 10:23 PM Re: Marmot PreCip [Re: Tango61]
mugs Offline
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Registered: 12/24/05
Posts: 500
Loc: Kent, WA.
I have owned mine for about 3 years now. After 6 months the DWR failed. 1.5 year the laminate around the coller and hood began to peal. After 2 years it is all gone. Re soaked with dwr but did not really help, now it is an around town jacket. My dropstopper worsk ten time better then the precip ever did. I will never buy one again and they are way too heavy for my tatse anyway.


Edited by mugs (05/11/08 10:23 PM)
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#96051 - 05/11/08 11:09 PM Re: Marmot PreCip [Re: mugs]
frenchie Offline
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Registered: 10/05/05
Posts: 461
Loc: Lyon, France
I have one, about 3 years old, still wear it occasionally. I like the design very much BUT as mugs said, the DWR failed VERY quickly, the jacket doesn't stand hours of rain (even gentle one), and trying to restore DWR treatment is never too satisfying; So I don't really trust the waterproofness anymore, with this one.

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#96052 - 05/12/08 11:20 AM Re: Marmot PreCip [Re: mtnman]
Wolfeye Offline
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Registered: 01/11/07
Posts: 413
Loc: Seattle, WA
I don't own one, so you can ignore my post if you like. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I found they had too many zippers for my taste; these add weight & bulk, and are another way for wetness to soak in. If a rainjacket is breatheable enough, it shouldn't need extra vents.

I hear about how they wear out after a few years, but my experience is that all lightweight raingear does that.

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#96053 - 05/12/08 12:45 PM Re: Marmot PreCip [Re: mtnman]
300winmag Offline
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Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
Not a bad jacket but, as I've said many times in this forum, I feel the better buy is the more breathable Gore-Tex PacLite rain parks from Cabela's. At $89. (up $10. from last year!) their Rainy River parka (and pants - another $89.) has very high quality and a lot of features.

I ordered a size large in a "tall" version because I wanted more butt coverage. Most parka brands don't even offer a tall in their size range

I saw a delaminated Precip this spring that was about 4 years old, according to its owner. It was delaminating around the neck and shoulders. He was very disappointed and said he was looking for an eVent parka.

Eric


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#96054 - 05/13/08 06:48 AM Re: Marmot PreCip [Re: 300winmag]
johndavid Offline
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Registered: 04/23/08
Posts: 260
Loc: jersey city NJ
Agreed that precip isn't the most durable. It's partly a question of what the garment is enduring. Personally, I wouldn't wash the thing without utmost care.

But it weighs 13 ounces and somebody said it's too heavy. A few rain jackets are a couple of ounces lighter. There are lots of jackets that are much heavier.

Also somebody said so-called "core venting" design features compromise weather proofing and are undesirable given superior breathability of some fabrics. The heat given off by one's body will invariably vary.

I've got an EVent windshirt with an 10" neck zipper. Epic, I gather, is highly breathable fabric. A very nice, light, & very costly garment. The lack of vents means....lack of venting.
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#96055 - 05/15/08 12:54 PM Re: Marmot PreCip [Re: 300winmag]
sabre11004 Offline
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Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 513
Loc: Tennessee


I have used the precip for around three years and I got very wet in a very heavy downpour about a year ago in the Smokie Mountains. Other than that I have pretty good success with it but now I can see where the coating is beginning to peal off and looks like a dandruff. I am a little disappointed in it but hell I did get three years of use out of it and I did use it at other times than when I was hiking...sabre11004... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />
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#96056 - 05/15/08 01:13 PM Re: Marmot PreCip [Re: 300winmag]
Jimshaw Offline
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Registered: 10/22/03
Posts: 3983
Loc: Bend, Oregon
Hiya Winny <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

My 25 year old TNF goretex mtn light one jacket is still water tight, and showing no damage from use except for some fading of the red. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />I haven't had any problems with my LL bean side zip paclite pants and they've been around for a long time too. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

I have had a couple of goretex coats delaminate - both from Marmott BTW, but they are happy to replace them if they can.

I have REI goretex bibs from 1987 maybe - they called them "Kahiltna" and all of the seam tape popped off this last winter, still very useable though.
Jim <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />
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#96057 - 05/16/08 07:39 AM Re: Marmot PreCip [Re: frenchie]
skimanjohn Offline
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Registered: 05/16/08
Posts: 3
Iam really kind of supprised to hear all the complaints about what if very much cheaper and coated fabric garments.All laminated fabrics wear out faster and at this price point it is what you get.What i have found to be true is that with these types of fabric it is better to roll up the garment tightly rather that wad it up and stuff it.Much less hard on the laminate.I have had some of these products last well over 10 years.Also a company like Marmot will replace it for you if it has not been abused.

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