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#93489 - 03/31/08 11:22 AM Beverage container, and cook pot
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I guess this would only apply to those who only boil water for a hot meal. I am wondering who has tried this. I found this can at the local store. It is a rockstar energy drink in 24 oz aluminum can. But the cool thing about it, is the re-closable top. So, if you don't like the drink, you can dump it, then refill with water etc. and then use the can as a pot. It weighs about as much as a 24 oz Heine. I guess the only concern would be if the inside is lined with plastic. I went to REI to see if they sold aluminum water containers. They do, but I think they have a plastic lining as well, and they seem heavier and more robust than this can.

So, has anyone ever tried this? Not necessarily this can, but combining a water container and pot into one item. Dual purpose right? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#93490 - 03/31/08 05:50 PM Re: Beverage container, and cook pot [Re: finallyME]
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When will they start making nergy (did you have to read that twice -energy) drinks in titanium bottles? I am trying to shy away from freezer bag cooking. Too many references toward bad affects from the plastic. I have been searching for a suitable container to use as a supplement for my cookpot. Right now I am using a 28 fl oz pot to cook in and a trek 900 to mix in / and as a cup. I have a cozy for the 900. It is working good. I use the 900 to store my candle lantern- I would like to find a suitable replacement that was in the heiney weight range - but a little sturdier (which will add some weight).

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#93491 - 03/31/08 09:46 PM Re: Beverage container, and cook pot [Re: finallyME]
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Aluminum fuel containers are not lined with plastic are they? I know they may have an oring on seal on top....

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#93492 - 04/01/08 03:47 AM Re: Beverage container, and cook pot [Re: Narf]
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Aluminum fuel containers ARE lined. It took a while, but according to the Sigg website: "Tests show that this is the only bottle with an inner coating resistant to fruit acids and isotonic drinks. Swiss high-tech production at work again."
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#93493 - 04/01/08 01:43 PM Re: Cans [Re: TurkeyBacon]
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It is interesting to see how aluminum cans are made. They have a liner sprayed in. This stops the beverages from interacting with the raw metal. So yes, ALL the cans have some kind of lining. What kind? Well...that would depend on the manufacturer of said cans.
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#93494 - 04/01/08 02:23 PM Re: Beverage container, and cook pot [Re: finallyME]
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If there is a reaction with the cans that have no liner, what about the heine can as a cook pot? I built two, one for my son and one for me. My Son is paranoid about using the aluminum can because of contamination. Is this a fact or do I have anything to worry about?

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#93495 - 04/01/08 09:06 PM Re: Cans [Re: sarbar]
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One environmental contaminant of concern "du jour" is an organic compound known as bisphenol-A (BPA). It's speculated to potentially be a hormone disrupter, maybe carcinogenic and neurotoxic.

BPA's found in epoxy resins for food and some beverage can linings, polycarbonate bottles, and some rigid plastic bottles. Some outfits have quit marketing the hard water bottles for that reason.

The big panic I've heard of is from moms regarding leaching from the hard plastic baby bottles.

When they analyze fluids or tissues from those of us that live outside the third world, this is one of the things we have in our background body load.

But lots of other common materials we live with are just as scary on this type of level. Manufactured beer is a witches brew of nasties that tastes great, too.

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#93496 - 04/01/08 09:45 PM Re: Cans [Re: BobEFord]
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As for those hard polycarbonate baby bottles.....I have just this to say:
They saved my child's life when he was born. Ford who is 10 1/2 now was born premature and to small to nurse. Preemie bottles of 2 & 4 ounce size were made of polycarbonate. Did I even blink? Would anyone? Rather I went out and stocked up.

Would I use them again if needed? Yes I would.

I have noted on many, many threads on these topics you have more pressing issues in your lives than this. And so many other things that can be harmful to our life..... (How about cutting back on sodium first and knocking down your risk of silent high blood pressure? How about going vegetarian and lowering your risk of colon cancer? How about not living in a tightly sealed house? Not driving a car?)

There is a risk with EVERYTHING we do in life. If you are using something a couple times a year, so be it. Change the things that affect you DAILY first.
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#93497 - 04/02/08 02:30 AM Re: Beverage container, and cook pot [Re: hootyhoo]
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When will they start making nergy (did you have to read that twice -energy) drinks in titanium bottles?


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#93498 - 04/02/08 10:47 AM Re: Cans [Re: sarbar]
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Personally, I'd move to Kamchatka or as far away from anything industrially spewing out crap if I was seriously worried about cancer before I'd worry about plastic bottles - I'm sure I get more from the local petrochemical industry than I do from those. - and as far as bisphenol-A and estrogen like things, I'm pretty sure my man-boobies originate more from pizza and a geek lifestyle than from plastic making me female <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

Of course, I'd move to Kamchatka, and then get eaten by a grizzly or shot by Russian bear poachers.. See - you can't win - don't try.. Relax and enjoy the hike and your heiny pot <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#93499 - 04/07/08 07:31 AM Re: Beverage container, and cook pot [Re: finallyME]
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Whether the plastic will kill you or not, that wasn't my question. Just wondering if anyone has tried having this dual purpose item, or if it is worth it. I.E, is it better to have a separate drink container and cook pot (if you are only boiling water) or will you save weight and space with both items being one?

Now, for off topic. I guess this is for Heine users. I found that Monster Energy Drinks now come in a 32 oz aluminum can. I bought one to compare. You would cut the top just like a Heine can. The top and bottom are the same diameter as the Heine. The difference is that the can is shaped like the average aluminum can, straight sides, and taller than the Heine. Now, to think of what to do with it, either than just a cook pot. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#93500 - 06/19/08 10:36 PM Re: Beverage container, and cook pot [Re: finallyME]
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i just sat down at work and made a realy cool stove out of one of these cans in under 5 min super easy. (man I love my job working graveyards) the contents also helped to keep me up. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" />

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