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#90441 - 03/06/08 02:37 PM Re: Mountain lions - Smokin! [Re: Brumfield]
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I lived in Idaho when the flower people were in SF. Dig?
Then moved back to mempho in the 70's and had a friend who's dad owned STAX records. Well,Janis came for a visit and she was in prime form when she pulled the cig stunt on the table cloth.
Don't be confused or stressed out man, it's all water under the bridge now. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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#90442 - 03/06/08 03:40 PM Re: Mountain lions - Smokin! [Re: chaz]
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Chaz wrote:
"Don't be confused or stressed out man,"

Brumfield wrote:
I was just kidding you about your lack of punctuation... sarcasm used in jest, you know.


Chaz wrote:
"it's all water under the bridge now".

Brumfield wrote:
That's what Teddy told Paul Markham when he walked in still wet from Poucha Pond.

You must have been thinking about Mary Jo, not Janis. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Brum
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#90443 - 03/08/08 07:31 AM Re: Mountain lions - Smokin! [Re: Brumfield]
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I could use a spell check and a calculator everywhere I go. I should carry a thesauras, a dictionary and every other device that keeps me goin in a strait line. My laptop,GPS,MP3 batteries fail when I get in the woods. I then have a pack full of dead electronics, I'm then lost with no entertainment and nothing to do. I should add a battery charger Huh. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#90444 - 03/08/08 10:33 AM Re: Mountain lions - Smokin! [Re: chaz]
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Chaz wrote:
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I could use a spell check and a calculator everywhere I go. I should carry a thesauras, a dictionary and every other device that keeps me goin in a strait line. My laptop,GPS,MP3 batteries fail when I get in the woods. I then have a pack full of dead electronics, I'm then lost with no entertainment and nothing to do. I should add a battery charger Huh. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />


Brumfield wrote:
No need to carry all that stuff around. It's all in our head from learning it in school anyway. I can't relate to needing electronic entertainment in the woods. There really is a Song of the Wild, but I can't hear it with an MP3 playing in my head. My electronics are limited to cameras, lighting, and for news, a small shortwave radio. I'm considering a folding 12 watt solar charger for the rechargeable batteries I use on extended dive and caving trips, but there are some new lithium power packs that are more portable and work more quickly to recharge batteries, might go that route instead.

Oh, and forget the straight line! Try not to pre plan every step too far in advance, leave room to, on merely a whim, just vamoose and wander aimlessly, helps to realize the freedom we all seek after. And it's amazing what we can find when we get off-trail and break out of our own self imposed ruts. Taking a risk in the hope of a favorable outcome is emotionally and spiritually fulfilling, and from experience, I've found it's better to have been and seen than to spend all the rest of my days wondering what was beyond the next mountain or canyon just off the straight line or mapped out trail. Venturing into the unknown with the intent of collecting experiential memories brings much more joy than collecting "friends" on FaceBook or MyFace. (But do bring a map and compass) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" /> Brum
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#90445 - 03/10/08 04:18 PM Re: Mountain lions - Chargin [Re: Brumfield]
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The only electronics I will carry into the woods will be an MP3 player that I may or may not listen to. I will use a compass and map for navigation. None need chargers and if the Mp3 player fails well, Oh well! The only batteries I'll use is AAA for my headlight and 2 AA's for my mini mag. I'll carry one set of spares for each and probably won't need those.

Just wanna get out there, Man.

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#90446 - 03/19/08 10:01 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: chaz]
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hoorah.

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#90447 - 03/19/08 10:26 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: jimii3]
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All I know is, they'd have to fight alot harder to eat me than it's probably worth. If I have a big cat charging at me, and I know fighting it is inevitable, I'm going down in a blaze of glory baby! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" /> I'm also 6'3'' 300 lbs... I'm not too scared by mountain lions. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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#90448 - 03/19/08 11:09 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: chaz]
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I've had no direct experience, but growing up in the Ozarks, I heard them "screaming" on more than a few occasions -- their howls are quite distinctive. I always just headed the other way as quietly as possible.
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#90449 - 03/20/08 12:59 AM Re: Mountain lions [Re: judach]
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Well i believe mountain lions have been known to take down some north american elk, moose, and bighorn sheep. You'd make a nice meal for the litter.

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h7MuFDVEU...untain-lion.htm


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#90450 - 03/20/08 05:53 AM Re: Mountain lions [Re: Narf]
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It's getting close to the beginning of April...I just want to make sure y'all understand that the above photograph is, as they say, 'not to scale.' <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />

Our cougar is back...swiped a horse about three weeks ago and dropped a white tail just yards from a neighbor's house. Yet to be seen, though...

FB
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#90451 - 03/20/08 11:46 AM Re: Mountain lions [Re: Fiddleback]
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It's getting close to the beginning of April...I just want to make sure y'all understand that the above photograph is, as they say, 'not to scale.' <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />



For sure FB.....Photoshop regards,
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#90452 - 03/20/08 02:37 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: chaz]
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An encounter with a Mountain Lion is a very different encounter that with say a bear or a Moose or something of that nature. When you are approached by a Mountain Lion he has one thing on his mind. EATING YOU !!!!! They do not play and if you are all of a sudden in the presence of one, the best thing that you can do is remove yourself from that area as quickly and as inconspicuously as possible. And be ready to defend yourself because they will chase you and unless you have a way of defending yourself, you may have a problem..That's one of the biggest reasons that I carry a hand gun because in certain situations that could be your only chance to survive. If a Mountain Lion gets a hold of you, you won't survive unless you have help. A solo hiker wouldn't stand a chance. Hope that helps...Happy Trekking....sabre11004...


The first step that you take will be one of those that get you there !!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#90453 - 03/20/08 04:43 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: aimless]
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Yes that is true, but as was said at the beginning of this post, they are rapidly increasing in numbers and that means that the current prey population that supports them now will not support then if they continue to increase in numbers like they are..The current prey population will only decrease as the mountain lion population increases... I don't really think that they will eat all the deer however when the deer population goes down don't think that a mountain lion won't look elsewhere because he will. And as far as seeing one of them, usually when you do see one it is too late. It's just much too big of a risk to go unprotected,
especially in areas in the south and the east where they are already pretty populated. Hope that helps...Happy Trekking...sabre11004...

The first step that you take will be one of those that get you there... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#90454 - 03/20/08 04:46 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: aimless]
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Aimless, if you ever survive a mountain lion attack, please post it up 'cause we will all want to hear about that one ............. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />
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#90455 - 03/20/08 04:53 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: Fiddleback]
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A mountain lion's breeding habits are pretty indiscriminate and far as when they breed. They actually breed at any time. They don't have specific breeding times like some animals do. They usually have 2-3 offspring and sometimes maybe 4 so they do not breed like cats but they do breed fast enough that if they aren't controlled they could get out of hand pretty quickly..They are a little intimidated by humans but as their contact becomes more frequent they are likely to get a little more accustomed to us being around them and them being around us...Hope that Helps...Happy Trekking...sabre11004...


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#90456 - 03/20/08 05:00 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: judach]
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Tiny, your'e just big enough to make a meal for several of them, and they don't mind a fight. They are used to it and don't mind at all... Hope that Helps...Happy Trekking...sabre11004...


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#90457 - 03/20/08 06:50 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: sabre11004]
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A little research will find the account of a ranger who was approached by a cougar. Mom lion was carrying a kitten and dropped the baby at/near the ranger's feet. The kitten was choking. The ranger cleared the kitten's throat and then backed away. Mom lion picked up the kitten and disappeared.

It was a long time ago...in the mid to late 60's I think and I think it took place in Florida. T'was reported by Reader's Digest, among others I imagine.

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#90458 - 03/20/08 06:54 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: sabre11004]
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Good point, although I don't mind a fight either... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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#90459 - 03/20/08 06:57 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: Narf]
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That is one BIG cat... haha. Well, if I'm going to be lunch anyway I might as well go down in a blaze of glory. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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#90460 - 03/20/08 06:59 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: judach]
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Now, me actually "winning" the fight, MIGHT be a different story... <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

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#90461 - 03/20/08 08:08 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: sabre11004]
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I seriously doubt that mountain lions, constantly hungry, are always on the prowl for a human snack - I am not a wildlife biologist, but I understand that their typical attack on their usual prey, deer in the western states, is to pounce from above and behind, typically breaking the neck and piercing the jugular vein. This suggests to me that you will never see the one that is going to have you over for dinner. Most predators do not indulge in frontal assaults - wasteful and inefficient.

I do consider what hazards I might confront when I step out of my door and being attacked by a mountain lion is #687, well behind more likely hazards. Of course this ranking can change depending upon the circumstances. I would agree that cougars are not just big, harmless pussycats and that one should be very cautious in their presence.

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#90462 - 03/21/08 06:00 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: oldranger]
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Interesting article in the Seattle Times. There's a link to a video, too...


Cougar Article

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#90463 - 03/22/08 09:47 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: sabre11004]
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That's what I'm talking about. The 45 auto won't be seen by anyone until I need it.

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#90464 - 03/24/08 12:51 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: demo]
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I hike in Cat country weekly and I am aware of them. I see a lot of their kills and give the area room. I do hike with a dog and I do carry a pistol. I don't worry too much about them though.

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#90465 - 03/24/08 04:27 PM Re: Mountain lions [Re: packfish]
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Did anyone see that show on Discovery where they were rebuilding a fence or something in Tiger country and they had a couple of guys with rifles and they all wore face masks on the back of their head to deter a rear attack. You could paint a face on the back of balaclava and wear it (UL, multipupose)- or get a halloween mask and wear it on the back of your head. Then the lion would think you are looking at them from any angle.

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