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#88897 - 02/07/08 06:26 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: brownwetdog]
HIKNMIK Offline
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Registered: 03/31/03
Posts: 53
Loc: illinois
I just checked GG's site and he has "The One" listed now with the video.
Nice design.

mike

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#88898 - 02/07/08 08:11 PM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: Dondo]
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Loc: Nevada, USA
Guys,
Agreed, all tents have some compromises. The One tent has a nice side entry but so does the TT Rainbow. I'd rather carry the Rainbow's extra weight B/C the ends where you'd put your head are arched almost straight up from the floor for quite a way. Thus sitting up is no problem.

The One tent, however does not have this advantage of design. Also you can't sleep sideways in it with your head near the pole unless you are
EXTREMELY "vertically challenged".

Again, not the smartest design we've seen come down the pike.
In fact I see nothing else in the design that is innovative or even new.

Eric
P.S.
Did I mention that I don't like this tent?
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#88899 - 02/08/08 04:13 AM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: 300winmag]
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Registered: 09/27/03
Posts: 37
Eric,

"Different strokes for different folks." If you don't like The One then don't buy it. But why keep going out of your way to attack it--especially when you have no actual personal experience with it? What's that all about anyway?

From my perspective The One looks like a very interesting tent--one which I plan on getting myself when it goes on sale next week. At 17 ounces it is the lightest full coverage tent with a floor available on the market. That alone makes it innovative. However, it also has high head clearance in the middle of the tent, looks very easy to set up, and has nice ventilation. I personally prefer spinnaker for a tarp or tent because it is much lighter and doesn't stretch and sag as sil-nylon does. As a fixed length hiking pole user (125 cm), I also love the fact that both hiking poles can be incorporated in the support of the tent and that 125 cm is the optimum length of pole to use.

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#88900 - 02/08/08 04:17 AM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: 300winmag]
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Registered: 05/06/02
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Loc: Colorado Rockies
Quote:
Did I mention that I don't like this tent?


Yep. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />

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#88901 - 02/08/08 06:10 AM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: rahodeb]
Dondo Offline
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Is that you, John?

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#88902 - 02/08/08 07:06 AM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: Dondo]
CWF Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
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"The One" is no on the GG site as of this morning.....

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#88903 - 02/08/08 07:21 AM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: CWF]
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I just saw it there a few minutes ago...

http://www.gossamergear.com/cgi-bin/gossamergear/xdpy/s/Shelter/index.html

It's in the "shelters" section...

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#88904 - 02/08/08 03:12 PM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: rahodeb]
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OK!, OK! OK!

Yes, The One tent is made from a preferrable material to sil nylon. It's likely "mist-proof" in a heavy downpour as well. And I get it that many DO like it's design. For sure The One tent is another welcome addition to the growing number of new UL gear designs. Time and sales will determine its fate despite my grumpiness about its design. Maybe I just forgot to take my Geritol and Dr. Jack Daniels when I wrote those opines.

Anyway, on the subject of tent material, I'd pay for the difference if TT came out with a Cuben fabric Contrail. The stretchy nature of sil nylon does keep one occupied tightening guy lines, especially in wet and windy weather.

Eric, GOM
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#88905 - 02/08/08 06:43 PM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: 300winmag]
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Registered: 10/22/07
Posts: 1149
Loc: Tennessee
I don't like my face banging the end of a tent. It looks kinda small. Might be o.k for kids and is lacking bug netting for the price. I think I would prefer something a tad larger although the material would be a good choice.

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#88906 - 02/08/08 07:26 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: brownwetdog]
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Registered: 01/04/02
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Loc: San Diego, CA
Mentioned on a different forum, isn't the design the same as Six Moon Design's Lunar Solo?

http://www.sixmoondesigns.com/shop/shopexd.asp?id=36
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#88907 - 02/08/08 08:42 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: geokite]
Franco Offline
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Registered: 04/05/04
Posts: 997
Loc: Australia
Not the same. Similar yes, but I really cannot see how anyone can design a tent now that is not somewhat similar to a previous design.
Note that the GG version uses two poles and the SMD only one.
Franco

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#88908 - 02/08/08 09:02 PM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: 300winmag]
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Loc: Australia
Yes, yes silnylon does stretch but not endlessly, at some point it stops....
This is what I do. I set up the Contrail with the pole an inch or so shorter than it should (can) be. Pull the guylines taut and proceed to wash my self, prepare dinner, whatever. If the humidity has risen or has started to rain I re-tighten the tent before I go to sleep. If it starts raining during the night , then I just increase the length of the pole and it's good night from me. If there is a chance of strong winds ,I use all of the 8 guyout points provided. Typically I have a walk around "camp" before I go in for the night and at the end of that I check the set up again.
Franco

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#88909 - 02/08/08 10:03 PM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: chaz]
CWF Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 266
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I don't like my face banging the end of a tent. It looks kinda small. Might be o.k for kids and is lacking bug netting for the price. I think I would prefer something a tad larger although the material would be a good choice.


Once again, there is more than 14 inches at each end. Unless you are 7 foot tall, you will have considerably more given the steep angled walls. Also, Glen is almost 6 ft 4" - and in the video you can see that he has plenty of room.

Can you not see the bug netting? How tall are your kids? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />

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#88910 - 02/10/08 11:52 AM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: Franco]
300winmag Offline
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Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
Franco,

It took many nights in my Contrail before I finally realized, as you mentioned, that one of the fastest and easiest ways to tighten the Contrail was to merely raise my hiking pole support. Another advantage of it's design...OK, and TheOne tent as well.

Eric
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#88911 - 02/10/08 01:55 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: BarryP]
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Registered: 02/26/04
Posts: 103
Loc: Christchurch, New Zealand
I agree there's nothing particularly revolutionery about the design of "The ONE", except it uses lighter fabric. I'll just wait until Henry gets the ball rolling and uses spinnaker in hid Double Rainbow.

What would be really nice (if any of you cottage tent-makers are watching), is a 2-person spinnaker tent that incorporates 4 trekking poles for support. Something like the DR without the central long pole. I'd pay a lot for that, as almost all my hiking is with my partner. Call it "The TWO"???

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#88912 - 02/11/08 12:19 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: retrotramp]
rahodeb Offline
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Registered: 09/27/03
Posts: 37
retrotramp,

Your spinnaker 2 person tent already exists. It's called the Squall Classic--designed by Henry and sold by Gossamer Gear in a partnership together--and it fits two people. This spinnaker tent weighs slightly less than 25 ounces with stakes and with the use of one trekking pole. This has been my favorite tent since I bought it a year or so ago, but I don't need the extra space for solo hiking. I look forward to trying The One out as soon as I can get my hands on one. I look forward to losing another 6 ounces or so off my base pack weight.

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#88913 - 02/12/08 06:32 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: frenchie]
khike Offline
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Registered: 08/24/07
Posts: 12
Loc: Florida Space Coast
Hello Gentlemen and Ladies, Nice Tent. Hard to argue with the wgt savings. Depends on what you want. Nice Tent. KK

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#88914 - 02/28/08 07:50 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: sabre11004]
CWF Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 266
Spray silicone is not recommended because it ultimately hardens the fabric, providing less 'stretch' and greater chance of material tearing. This is why silicone impregnated fabrics exist - silicone is injected between the threads which still permits some level of stretch / strength, while also providing a level of waterproofness. Otherwise, the spray silicone is crap for most applications. Plus it adds unnecesary weight, and its all about lite gear.

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#88915 - 03/07/08 03:56 AM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: chaz]
Damian Offline
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Registered: 10/15/02
Posts: 324
Quote:
is lacking bug netting for the price.


First post in a while.

It's a little hard to follow from the thread, but if you're referring to The One it does have bug netting.

Photos of the prototype of The One were posted on BPL a while back ... I graciously offerred to test it for Glen but he demurred.

Damian <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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