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#88872 - 02/03/08 06:15 PM "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear
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Gossamer Gear Tent – “The One” has some buzz about it as to be expected with a one pound tent. I just watched a short video ( The One Gossamer Gear website )showing Glen Van Peski setting up the new tent. Projected cost is $275, includes stuff sack, and 2-pack of polycryo ground sheets, but not stakes. The tent is made out of spinnaker fabric and sounded quite “crinkley” in the video. Glen is very tall (about 6' 4") and it shows him laying out in the tent fully stretched out. Carol



Edited by brownwetdog (02/08/08 07:20 PM)

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#88873 - 02/03/08 08:00 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: brownwetdog]
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Amazing... that is going in my pack.

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#88874 - 02/03/08 11:08 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: rockymtnhiker]
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Thanks for the link. Interesting and very similar to my TT Contrail on concept.
Still I like my Contrail's high "head end" as opposed to "The One" tent's floor layout where your head is pretty close to the roof.

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#88875 - 02/04/08 06:40 AM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: brownwetdog]
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Sweet. I've been wondering what that would look like ever since they announced it. Pretty cool. Not huge, but big enough, and for only a pound maybe I'll carry that and a hammock <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" />

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#88876 - 02/04/08 08:51 AM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: brownwetdog]
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Looks like a very lightweight version of a tent design that has been around for a long time.

I made a tent similar to this around 1970 and I was copying an existing Canadian product.

Don't know about the crinkly spinnaker cloth. The stuff I've seen isn't fully waterproof.

My latest evolution of this design (hooped pole, tent plus fly, all ripstop tent) is shown in the Make Your Own Gear section of this website under DJ's Bivy Tent.

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#88877 - 02/04/08 10:15 AM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: DJ2]
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I've had good experience with my silnylon tarptent, but I have heard that if the rain is hard enough, it can penetrate silnylon and cause misting inside (note: different from outside rain dislodging interior condensation droplets). Wonder how spinnaker compares in a hard rain?

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#88878 - 02/04/08 10:29 AM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: Ben2World]
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It depends on the Spinnaker. GG's is supposed to be very good, though I have no experience with their products in rain to say if it mists or not. I've heard that it doesn't though, or at least not much.

Has anyone used the GG Squall Classic in a heavy rain? That's made from the same material... I'd like to hear how it handles it.

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#88879 - 02/04/08 10:49 AM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: 300winmag]
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It looks very much like the one I'm making at the moment, except mine has a hooped pole and a sewn in floor...And my other Lunar Solo clone, too <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
Nice "one" but expensive...

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#88880 - 02/04/08 11:05 AM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: Ben2World]
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> I have heard that if the rain is hard enough, it can penetrate silnylon and cause misting
> inside

Been there done that. However, I've learned that using a spray-on silicone treatment "refreshes" the waterproofing and eliminates the misting. Tried it and it does work. Seems to last for a season or so.

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#88881 - 02/04/08 11:58 AM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: brownwetdog]
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Does the tent come with "Buddy" the dog? <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

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#88882 - 02/04/08 12:07 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: brownwetdog]
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Is there a way to download the video so I don’t have to try and watch this thing through an extremely slow service?
I don’t mind a slow download; at least then I can watch regular speed straight from my disk.
Thanx,
-Barry

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#88883 - 02/04/08 12:09 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: OldScout]
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I was wondering why brownwetdog liked it, the dog in the movie was black and dry. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" />
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#88884 - 02/04/08 12:24 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: OldScout]
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Seriously... I think the dog was the best part, especially the part when he walks up to say "hi". Very cute!

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#88885 - 02/04/08 04:51 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: Hector]
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Hector:

Which brand silicone spray-on treatment did you use? Can you provide a link? Thanks in advance.

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#88886 - 02/04/08 06:57 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: finallyME]
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<<< I was wondering why brownwetdog liked it, the dog in the movie was black and dry. >>>

FinallyME <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> Give a dog enough time to roll in the mud and they can all become brown wet dogs... I loved the dog saying hello! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Carol

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#88887 - 02/04/08 07:10 PM Re: "The One" tent - video at GG website [Re: brownwetdog]
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Gossamer Gear Tent – “The One” has some buzz about it as to be expected with a one pound tent. I just watched a short video (The One from Gossamer Gear) showing Glen Van Peski setting up the new tent. CB

Edited to direct the link to the Gossamer Gear website.


Edited by brownwetdog (02/09/08 08:59 AM)

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#88888 - 02/04/08 07:15 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: brownwetdog]
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I was wondering how you got the in on gear at GG. I visit there on occasion and hadn't seen anything mentioned, plus I was adding up the weight of all components for the Spinn shelter. Still looking to off set the weight of my chair I use now.

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#88889 - 02/04/08 11:17 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: hikerduane]
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I wonder why it was posted on YouTube if they wanted to keep it private. I just checked YouTube but it evidently has now been pulled. It's whoever put it on YouTube that has the problem, not you, Carol. Once the video was public, anyone could link to it.

I was not too enamored of the tent--sounds as though everyone within half a mile can hear it being pitched--but I loved the dog!
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#88890 - 02/05/08 04:35 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: Ben2World]
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I find that depending how I pitch my tarp is what really controls whether or not it will leak. If the tarp is pitched with a flat-type roof and it rains really hard (and it's left like that) it may leak but I would never leave it pitched like that in a hard rain. If you slant the walls of a tarp there is not much rain that can get through it. I have had mine in torrential rains (for days and days) and it has "never" leaked...Hope this helps...Happy Trekking...sabre11004....

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#88891 - 02/05/08 04:37 PM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: Hector]
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Yes the spray silicone does work and is very effective as a simple maintenance program for any silnylon tarp. It really does work..Hope this helps...Happy Trekking...sabre11004....

The first step that you take will be one of those that get you there !!!!! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#88892 - 02/06/08 09:02 AM Re: "The One" tent -- Gossamer Gear [Re: Ender]
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“Has anyone used the GG Squall Classic in a heavy rain? That's made from the same material... I'd like to hear how it handles it.”

I have the GG Squall. Our scoutmaster has the SpinnShelter (thanx to Glenn <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />). So I have observed both in heavy rain.

To me I have had BETTER waterproofing results with spinnaker than silnylon. I haven’t had any drops come in these 2 tents through thunderstorms.
I also have NOT seam sealed these tents but I had to with my silnylon tents to get similar results.

And, I don’t know why, I have had less condensation issues with spinnaker.

One feature I love about Spinnaker is once you have the tautness correct, you don’t have to retighten 30 minutes later. Silnylon eventually sags on you so you usually have to retighten (or just live with the sag).

Once it’s set up, it hasn’t been noisy.

The GG Squall is so easy to slide into its tube stuff bag. That’s where I struggle with silnylon.

One thing that initially scared me upon arrival of my GG Squall is that my back stake-out ripped. It must have been a sewing defect. I sent it back to GG and they turned it around in 1 day. That tent has been strong ever since. However, I don’t pull it as tight now.

-Barry

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#88893 - 02/06/08 11:08 PM "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: brownwetdog]
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As in my other post on this thread I feel "The One" tent needs at least ONE end made higher for head room. Otherwise they need to look seriously at the TT Contrail layout. Does nobody else feel this The One tent layout is just impractical?

Eric
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#88894 - 02/07/08 06:39 AM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: 300winmag]
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Eric, I think all tent designs are compromises and in the end it just comes down to personal preference. Currently, I use two shelters with one end higher and a front entry (silshelter and Virga 2 ) and one with the middle higher and side entry (Montbell Diamond). Both types of designs have their pros and cons. I like the ease of entry of the side opening designs and the fact that when you sit up, your butt is already where it need to be--there's no need to scoot up. Also, with the pole(s) in the middle, the unsupported panels of fabric are smaller. On the other hand, with the one-end-higher design, you may get less condensation directly overhead and a more spacious feel while laying down.

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#88895 - 02/07/08 10:02 AM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: 300winmag]
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"As in my other post on this thread I feel "The One" tent needs at least ONE end made higher for head room. "

Why?

There is at least 14 inches at each end and the sides slope dramatically upward. If you want headroom, just sit up. This design has been extremely successful for years - SMD Lunar, Hilleberg Akto.

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#88896 - 02/07/08 02:45 PM Re: "The One" tent --Uh, HUH! [Re: CWF]
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As I recall from the now disappeared video, the trekking pole length is the same as for the SMD Lunar Solo and the Tarptent Squall 2 (115 cm./42 in.). And with this one you have the height at both ends--nice for two head-to-toe sleepers or for Buddy the dog as a footwarmer in the rear of the tent--he'll be able to stand up!

And thanks, Hector, for the tip on using DWR on silnylon! I personally haven't had "misting" problems that weren't caused by heavy raindrops knocking loose condensation inside, and it was very, very minor. But I plan to go to the Rockies this summer, so I will spray some on my tent to prepare for those thunderstorms!


Edited by OregonMouse (02/07/08 02:49 PM)
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