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#81546 - 12/14/07 06:27 AM Re: Alittle on the subject of food. [Re: Dimitri]
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Dimitri Posted:

I see alot of posts about "salt", "calories", "fat" and the like. Does it really matter ??

I think its cause I'm not thinking about weight (it goes food, water, fire, first aid, shelter, a spare set of clothing then everything else from most to least important in my pack so my food can weight me down alittle if I'm eating good hearty meals) which might be the reason I don't quite get about over analyzing this or is it because simply I've never really read a nutritional bar on food with the intent of controlling my diet with that information ??

Dimitri




If you really think that eating is just picking up food and putting it into your mouth, then all this talk of "salt", "calories", "Protein", "Carbohydrates"...... is just a waste of time.

I used to have a friend who believed the same way.

I don't miss him one bit.

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#81547 - 01/10/08 05:14 PM Re: Alittle on the subject of foodGo Peanut Butter [Re: sarbar]
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I have been looking at the grocery stores and trying to find food that does not have any preservatives. Are there any? I know that peanut butter is preservative free but what else is out there that doesn't have any preservatives. I hate those things. They are killing us all and we don't even know it. The U.S.D.A. What an organization. I would be interested in knowing of food products that you guys and girls are aware of that is preservative free. I'd be interested in some feed back here from every one....sabre11004...



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#81548 - 01/11/08 10:24 AM Re: Alittle on the subject of foodGo Peanut Butter [Re: sabre11004]
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If you want to avoid preservatives you will need to look carefully. Often canned "simple" foods are free of it, so are "simple" frozen and of course fresh. By "simple" I mean foods that are one or two items. In other words: canned beans, frozen green beans, etc.
If the food is processed into a ready meal it often has preservatives.

Hence, I buy nearly all organic food to avoid preservatives. When I buy things like meat for my family I realize that I have to use it up fast (one down side). I cook almost everything from scratch.

Yes, it does take more time, but it can be worth it <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" /> Just read, read and read more when you shop!
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#81549 - 01/17/08 01:04 PM Re: Alittle on the subject of foodGo Peanut Butter [Re: sarbar]
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Seconding what Sarbar said - the basic food elements are usually free of preservatives and flavor enhancers. They are put into finished food products because they allow the food to last longer without flavor changes and spoilage. Frozen, vacuum-sealed food may be one exception, since no stabilizing additives are needed due to freezing and oxygen-free packaging. You still have to check the label.

OTOH, those labels don't tell you EVERYTHING you know. Like canned oranges - the label doesn't say what pesticides, fertilizers, and growth supplements were fed to the trees. The same is true of meat, fish (ESPECIALLY fish - heavy metal contamination), poultry (hormones hormones hormones), and...hey, isn't that just about everything we eat? So you buy free range or organics? What's in the water? How about the rain? What about the ground? Some ground is naturally high in hazardous substances. (LOL when I saw the "organic" orchard next to the Quicksilver Mines in San Jose - lots of mercury in the red dirt) And those pollutants in the air go somewhere - is your free range right next to a major highway? It's enough to make ya wanna starve!

So here's what I do - I try to keep myself healthy by regular exercise, proper diet/hydration, and getting enough sleep. I get an annual physical. I trust my body to deal with the minute quantities of toxins I eat.

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#81550 - 01/18/08 08:58 PM Re: Alittle on the subject of foodGo Peanut Butter [Re: NiytOwl]
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What Nity and Sarbar said, I cook all my meals from food I raise or grow, spend less than $25 a month at the store <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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#81551 - 01/19/08 08:37 AM Re: A little on the subject of food [Re: Earthling]
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I have the family on a more intense diet right now. No dessert anymore (except for Fridays) and no more junk cereal for the kid and husband to munch on as candy. I quit baking cookies and treats for them as well.

I have never been a meat fan, I was a vegan for years. I love cheese too much to be a vegan again, but I could live without eating meat ever again. Getting down to 1 meal a week with meat. I think the only complaint from my husband is the sheer amount of legumes I cram down their throats. I call it the high fiber lifestyle <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

On the other hand, my pants are not tight anymore <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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#81552 - 01/19/08 09:24 AM Re: Alittle on the subject of foodGo Peanut Butter [Re: Earthling]
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What Nity and Sarbar said, I cook all my meals from food I raise or grow, spend less than $25 a month at the store <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />


Darn earthling. You're doing pretty good for the ol' footprint on the planet. Impressive.
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#81553 - 01/19/08 09:48 AM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: phat]
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I wish I could spend $25 a month...my problem is I like hard to find stuff <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif" alt="" /> My spice habit alone is killing me <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Trader Joes exists solely to deplete my wallet.
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#81554 - 01/19/08 10:01 AM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: sarbar]
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Yeah, I hear ya. Mind you, with a 14 and 16 year old in the house, I can't wait to see how my diet and store trips and expenditures change when we finally get rid of the kids..
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#81555 - 01/19/08 01:02 PM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: sarbar]
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Sarbar,

LOL...yeah, Trader Joe's puts a dent in my food budget too! I hate the dried food aisle - I have soooo much dry food taking up cabinet space - all in the name of mix-my-own gorp. They always seem to have something new I've got to try. The frozen cioppino is really hard to walk by...arggh! There goes another $15!

Earthling,

I don't know how you manage on $25! That's what I spend on just milk.

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#81556 - 01/19/08 08:06 PM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: phat]
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I spent $100 at TJ's this morning. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I get to the checkout and suddenly I see stuff I didn't put in the cart and the husband and kid whistling innocently and heading out to the truck, ditching me. Hah.

My kid alone is 1/2 our food bill <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />For such a skinny kid he can pack away the food. And he is only 10!!!! I don't wanna know how bad it will be at 16. Waahhhhh!
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#81557 - 01/20/08 07:09 AM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: sarbar]
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ROTFL!

I an remember little old ladies stopping me in the grocery store when the boys were very young. They wuld pat my hand and say "THREE boys? You poor little Dear!" I thought at the time it was the thought of rearing them at all. As time went on and the butcher would look at us and say "Three boys? I wouldn't want your grocery bill!" Hubby and 3 sons are all over 6 ft tall. That did take a lot of food. (Now they call me "Shorty," BTW!) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />

At least one of them still cleans the rain gutters for me.

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#81558 - 01/20/08 08:08 AM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: CamperMom]
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<img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />CamperMom that's funny; guess you fed them all well 'cause you grew some big'uns <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I can't hold it against you folks with the little munchikins..Lord knows they can pack it away in them little hollow legs of their's. Have to equate kids to kittens, who are little eatin' and poopin' machines; and quite proud of themselves when they head straight from their food bowls to their litter box <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Kids are a whole 'nother equation when it comes to food shopping...and don't even get me started on taking them to a TJ's or Costco, etc <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Can't blame them, we were all like them many moons ago!

I use coupons and have only shopped once last year when the cashier did not return cash to my hand <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> upon checkout. Now that's shopping! I only a few cwertain items once a month, and being 1 person they last me the whole month. I grow, cook, and raise my own food so the expenses are minimal at the grocery store. I only drink water, for the past 35 years, no booze, soda, coffee <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />, yeah, no coffee and I'm this hyper <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" />, so that's easy. I don't buy meat, and eat it once a month or less. Though since my friend sent me down some Bison, in trade for some things I sent him last year; I've been enjoying a nice Bison sirloin once a month <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Had my own chickens so that solves the egg and chicken part if I want any. Mostly gave them away for trade, I like to barter <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Fruits and veggies all covered...like I posted...Ate my last GARDEN FRESH tomato on New Year's Day <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" />

If I learned to sew I would'nt have to buy clothes <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> I know how to make deerskin clothes but they are'nt practical to wear unless you're on the set of a Western IME <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" /> Or one of the Village People, and, well, if you remeber who they are you should go to your closets right now and toss out all theose '70's clothes your hoarding with the big lapels <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#81559 - 01/20/08 09:48 AM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: sarbar]
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I spent $100 at TJ's this morning. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif" alt="" /> I get to the checkout and suddenly I see stuff I didn't put in the cart and the husband and kid whistling innocently and heading out to the truck, ditching me. Hah.

My kid alone is 1/2 our food bill <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/shocked.gif" alt="" />For such a skinny kid he can pack away the food. And he is only 10!!!! I don't wanna know how bad it will be at 16. Waahhhhh!


My 14 year old boy eats like 3 people. Now my 16 year old girl isn't so bad, but she has a boyfriend who eats at our house as often as not - I basically take anything we're making for
dinner and double it when that happens. - and it all dissapears....
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#81560 - 01/20/08 12:44 PM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: phat]
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How is it teenage boys know what house to eat at? It isn't by accident I tells ya! My mom fed all of my brothers buddies in high school. She dropped a couple hundred a month on them. I think she felt sorry for them and she felt boys needed to eat. Hence the mooches never went home. Hah!
One of the guys lived with his mom and grandmother who thought half a sandwich and a 8 ounce cup of soup was dinner. And that snacks were bad. She'd send him to school with a lunch for an anorexic woman. He'd hit our house and eat non-stop from 3-5 pm every day <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> My mom kept the poor guy from starving!
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#81561 - 01/20/08 12:50 PM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: sarbar]
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How is it teenage boys know what house to eat at? It isn't by accident


From Observation, and having been a teenage boy myself, the algorithm is relatively simple :

Q: "What house to eat at?"
A: "All of them".. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#81562 - 01/20/08 12:55 PM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: phat]
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Although I think The Arrogant Worms sing it better than I can describe it <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />
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#81563 - 01/20/08 05:33 PM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: phat]
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lol......
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#81564 - 01/21/08 04:07 PM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: sarbar]
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How is it teenage boys know what house to eat at? It isn't by accident I tells ya! My mom fed all of my brothers buddies in high school. She dropped a couple hundred a month on them. I think she felt sorry for them and she felt boys needed to eat. Hence the mooches never went home. Hah!
One of the guys lived with his mom and grandmother who thought half a sandwich and a 8 ounce cup of soup was dinner. And that snacks were bad. She'd send him to school with a lunch for an anorexic woman. He'd hit our house and eat non-stop from 3-5 pm every day <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> My mom kept the poor guy from starving!


Geeze Sarbar <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> I have a soup and sandwich meal for dinner almost every night during the Winter, and I'm no rail <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> Then again I'm quite a bit past my teens <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> i would've wrangled that posse of youngin's into doing chores around the yard before the feasting began. That way you could weed out the genuine moochers from those truly in need <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" /> I make a meal 3-5 times a week for my elderly neighbor who I know appreciates the gesture as he has failing eyesight, and so does'nt cook for himself <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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#81565 - 01/21/08 06:57 PM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: Earthling]
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Hehheh......my mom would always surprise the guys and send them out to help get firewood or help my dad in the back 40. I learned how to hide from my mom <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif" alt="" />
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#81566 - 01/22/08 06:33 AM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: Earthling]
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A soup and sandwich usually does it for me to Earthling. Tonight I'm having homemade chicken and rice with a nice Tuna on toasted rye.
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#81567 - 01/22/08 09:21 AM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: layla17]
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Last night was a really nice homemade minestrone with grated Grano Padona cheese on top and a fresh mozzerella cheese sandwich <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/ooo.gif" alt="" /> I am THE Soup King in these parts, some call me frugal, I like to think of myself as resourceful and not wasteful <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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#81568 - 01/22/08 09:29 AM Re: Mmmmmmmm Soup! [Re: Earthling]
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I love soup, nearly any kind and make tons of it.

I'll be eating a LOT of it in the next week. My braces are being put on in an about an hour and a half. Sigh <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif" alt="" /> No chewing for awhile!
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#81569 - 03/21/08 01:04 PM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: sarbar]
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Sounds like when I was in High School. At one time, my mom would have two fresh loaves of bread come out the oven when we got home (this was the whole wheat kind that we ground ourselves). One of my friends found out, and came home with me every day for a month or so. It was his first for homemade bread and he always seemed to cut a really big slice. <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />

I also remember one time eating at a friends in High School. They gave us ONE box of mac and cheese for 5 teenagers. I was thinking, "I eat one by my self for a snack." <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" /> <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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#81570 - 03/21/08 03:16 PM Re: My hurting wallet [Re: finallyME]
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Lol...yeah, some parents get it, others don't! And mmmmmmm......how I love bread hot-out-of-the-oven slathered in butter. There is little better than that! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif" alt="" />
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