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#79691 - 09/10/07 02:46 PM Handle for 24 oz heiny can
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I'm a little tea pot, short and stout, here is my handle and here is my spout. Will this work- - I have an old cookpot from a boy scout set. the wire handle is mounted to a flat piece of aluminun that is welded to the pot. I want to cut the flat piece off the pot- grind the pot off the flat piece. and then jb weld the flat part/wire handle to a paintless heiny can. I steel wooled the paint of the can. It looks cool. Now it needs a handle. Is there a good way to make a light but reasonably trusty handle without penetrating the can?

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#79692 - 09/10/07 03:47 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: hootyhoo]
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I'd be worried about the handle making it not round and therefore even more succeptable to crushing - but it sounds like it'd work.

OTOH I hate handles. One purpose weight that you rarely use. I carry a pair of ragg wool gloves which let me both keep my hands warm and pick up hot pots with no handles <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif" alt="" />.
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#79693 - 09/26/07 09:32 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: phat]
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On my Heineken pot, I'm using stainless steel picture hanging wire with little ferrules mashed onto the ends to form a bail handle. Most of that type of wire is zinc coated and I prefer to avoid zinc in cookware.

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#79694 - 09/28/07 05:36 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: hootyhoo]
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Does the kevlar tape work very well. I mean can you pick up the can/pot with it full of boiling h2o and not get burned through the kevlar tape. I saw that J Klass was using it, but does that mean that he is able to lift it off the stove like that? Is there any off gasing from heated kevlar? It looks like a wonderful idea if I can find some kevlar tape I will experiment.

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#79695 - 09/29/07 03:58 AM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: hootyhoo]
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I use the 1/16" fiberglass wick wrapped and tied, not glued, around my heiny pot like it Tinny from Minibull Designs shows.

When you pick up the pot with boiling water it is warm to the touch but not hot. Just like a pot holder, I would not want to hold on to it for more than necessary. But you can at least hold it to pour into a freezer bag, lift to take a drink or eat from. I am happy with the set-up.
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#79696 - 10/29/07 04:27 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: hootyhoo]
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I made a bail handle for the heiny pot. It weighs 1 3/4 ounces with the lid. It works well.






I pulled the nail out of two 3/16 rivets and drilled them with a 13/64 drill bit to make the washes shown on the inside of the pot. The handle is from a paint can.

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#79697 - 10/31/07 05:08 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: just_another_Joe]
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I tried to find some really thin stainless wire at home depot and lowes, but they did not have anything small enough. They were out of one type, but the tag on the shelf did not say what size it was. I would like to try a wire bail handle. The only draw back is that it would not stay up in some cases. The handle on this pot did not get hot when I boiled 16 oz water over an alch stove, but I do not want zinc exposure. I may just have to live with it. I am considering not using a pot stand anyway- in which case the pot would be held with a stick through the handle and the wire would work better. Who knows. Maybe a bear will get me before the zinc does.

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#79698 - 11/01/07 09:42 AM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: hootyhoo]
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You could try another approach entirely.

I'm using a 12 oz Vienna sausage can for a pot/cup. It is about the same circumference as a 25 oz beer can. If you can hold your Heineken can encircled by your fingers, consider using some high temperture (RTV) silcone sealant. I bought some (red) sealer of this type in the automotive section of my local ***Mart and built up two large pads that I can grab between my thumb and two fingers. It is enough to pick up and pour boiling water onto my dehydrated food and good enough to hold a warm drink, once it cools a bit.

For a more flexible beer can pot, you may have more success with the RTV pads added high on the can sides to reduce the heat from your flame reaching them. You may also want to avoid filling it up too high, as the pads do get warm and you will have to grip the can snugly while the sides flex as you pick up the can. A nasty scald is bad enough at home, we sure don't need them in the field.

The pads on my pot have held up for a couple of years, now, so I'm happy with their durability.

Good Luck!

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#79699 - 11/01/07 10:52 AM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: hootyhoo]
preprunner Offline
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I have kevlar tape around my heiny pot and it works just fine. Exactly like the wick. It's pretty warm to the touch sitting on the stove but I could sit there and hold it all day.

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#79700 - 11/01/07 01:54 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: hootyhoo]
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Camper mom you have some of the best ideas. I love the built up pad idea- how do you come up with these wonderful things? This is how I ended up with bail handle and not the fiberglass wick, or other. Although, I do really like the wick and think that it may actually decrease fuel usage by insulating the pot. So, I think it is a good thing.


I am not sure that I am following the manufacturers recommended usage for this can/pot, but as you can see in the above pics, it has been in the fire. I like to have the ability to use fire for cooking/water boiling- it is part of my emergency preparedeness. I can imagine loosing my fuel, or worse my water purification and my fuel. So as part of my emergency kit I like a pot that can be used on a fire. I also like to boil water over the fire to conserve fuel sometimes. In the winter I like to sit around the fire with a pot of water heating, then I pour that in my platy, boil some more, until the platy is full. I can keep the platy in my bivy, and in the morning I have purified water. And on trips when I did not plan my fuel properly I can fire cook at night and stove cook in the morning. I rarely have a morning fire, anyway-- and I want my coffee NOW!

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#79701 - 12/20/07 07:19 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: hootyhoo]
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I recently made a heiny can pot after seeing yours. I used aluminum welding rod for the handle and mounted it with rivets up to the top rim. The bail handle when folded just fits over the edge of the can. That way I can fold the bail to the side and put everything in the pot and the pot in a small stuff sack.
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#79702 - 12/22/07 12:06 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: chaz]
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Having tried high temperature silicone sealant, I now vote for a wire hanger. The silicone just got too hot to handle. I twist a loop of 20 or 22 gauge wire around another loop of the same, and twist the second loop around the can so the first loop forms a handle. Works fine. 20 to 22 gauge zinc coated wire works OK for a long time. Staneless would be better, but 19 gauge is the only common small size, and it's too big.

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#79703 - 01/02/08 07:20 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: hootyhoo]
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Does the kevlar tape work very well. I mean can you pick up the can/pot with it full of boiling h2o and not get burned through the kevlar tape. I saw that J Klass was using it, but does that mean that he is able to lift it off the stove like that? Is there any off gasing from heated kevlar? It looks like a wonderful idea if I can find some kevlar tape I will experiment.


Hey Hooty,
With the Kevlar tape and tea light stove, yes, you can easily lift the stove without burning your fingers. Because the output of the tea light stove is so low, you don't need thick insulation and so the tape works well.

There's no gasing off from the Kevlar itself but after the first couple of times you use it, you might notice a slight smell from the JB Weld I use to attach the tape to the Heiney pot. People always bring up the same issue with galvanized hardware cloth stands but I see it as a non-issue. After all, do you put your face directly over your cooking setup and breathe in deeply the whole time it's cooking? Usually, I'm off doing other camp chores while my water is boiling and nowhere near my stove so I really don't care about concerns of toxic fumes, etc. Hope this helps.
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#79704 - 01/03/08 09:44 AM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: jasonklass]
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Yes, Jason, it's 2008 already WAKE UP! <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif" alt="" />
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#79705 - 01/09/08 03:58 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can/using JB weld [Re: hootyhoo]
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Registered: 05/05/07
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Loc: Tennessee


I had once built a stove (alky version) and used JB weld to fasten legs/pot holder to the outside of the stove. It worked great for a long time but eventually I think that the heat got to the "weld" and it came loose. Oh well, back to the drawing board. I had thought of looking on super glue's web-site to see if they offered a heat resistant adhesive in their line. I guess it wouldn't hurt to try huh?????sabre11004...



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#79706 - 01/09/08 05:50 PM Re: Handle for 24 oz heiny can [Re: Spock]
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Spock-

How close did the water level in your pot come to the silicone pads and were they THICK? The RTV silicone has worked for me for a few years. If the water boils for more than a minute or two or the flame is high, or the water level is too high, the silicone pads do get hot, but not so hot that I can't quickly pour the water onto my waiting dry food. High water. long heating, prolonged cooking-changes the dynamics of the set up. I'm a boil water and dump on my food camper...

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