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#57665 - 08/14/07 04:59 PM Re: Argh! Stupid Canadian Wally World! [Re: phat]
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But I was able to buy a pair of Cuban pyjamas.

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#57666 - 08/14/07 05:28 PM Re: Argh! Stupid Canadian Wally World! [Re: JAK]
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Loc: West Paterson, NJ
How about Soy Milk Powder (Instant) - 24 oz. - Non-GE
at http://www.nowfoods.com/?action=itemdetail&item_id=3493
I don't drink cow milk and feel much better for it.
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#57667 - 08/14/07 08:10 PM Re: Argh! Stupid Canadian Wally World! [Re: phat]
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Someone on the Western Canada section of Chowhound may know of a place in Calgary that carries Nido.

http://www.chowhound.com/boards/57

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#57668 - 10/10/07 03:14 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: phat]
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Loc: Grand Canyon State
Quote:
Anyone know of a source for these in Canada? Wally World up here doesn't
carry them, and I have a hard time finding anything but powdered skim up
here.


Nido/Ninho in Canada

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#57669 - 10/10/07 05:04 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: hikeaz]
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That's funny that my old thread just got bumped because I finally tried some of that powdered milk about two hours ago I bought some Nido and Milkman and Carnation over a year ago, but it has been sitting on my shelf since then because I thought it would taste nasty and just haven't gotten around to trying it.

I tried some Nido today and it was excellent. I thought it tasted a lot like regular milk without any real "funky" taste. I still have the Milkman and Carnation stuff here too, but haven't tried it yet.

But I'm excited that I can take some powdered milk with me on backpacking trips and use it in my oatmeal or just drink it by itself. By the way, you can buy Nido on amazon.com, but it is probably pretty expensive, especially with shipping. I hope I like some of the lower fat stuff too, but I'm usually most concerned with getting enough calories while backpacking and hiking, so the Nido will probably win out, even if it put some extra weight on me in the end.


Edited by tchiker (10/10/07 05:06 PM)

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#57670 - 10/10/07 07:49 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: tchiker]
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tchiker-

Now that you have opened that can of Nido milk powder, use it in a month or two, or cover very tightly and freeze or refrigerate it. Otherwise it becomes rancid. Yes, I learned form personal experience.

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#57671 - 10/10/07 08:22 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: CamperMom]
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I haven't noticed problems with Nido going rancid, but my home rarely gets above 70, and I mostly use it for baking, where mild rancidity would not be noticeable.

Still, rancidity is more of a potential problem with the full fat powder.

The container does keep in a cool dark place.

paulj


Edited by paulj (10/11/07 09:06 AM)

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#57672 - 10/10/07 09:53 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: CamperMom]
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tchiker-

Now that you have opened that can of Nido milk powder, use it in a month or two, or cover very tightly and freeze or refrigerate it. Otherwise it becomes rancid. Yes, I learned form personal experience.



Thanks for the tip. I was thinking that I would probably take a few months to use it all up, but I guess this would not be a good strategy.

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#57673 - 10/10/07 10:20 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: tchiker]
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I must have no sense of taste, because I have kept Nido in the refrigerator for at least 6 months and still didn't notice any decline in taste.

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#57674 - 10/11/07 08:53 AM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: craumerp]
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My meaning was misread, so I'm sorry that I wasn't more clear.

Nido on the counter should be used fairly quickly after opening. I anticipate it will last longer in the refrigerator. My opened but covered can that sat near the stove went bad over time. (I use the microwave more than the stove, unless backpacking. When we find ultra light long cords and microweight microwave ovens, that could change...maybe.)

CamperMom

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#57675 - 10/11/07 05:24 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: CamperMom]
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I have tried multiple varieties of powdered milk and liked none of them. One of my childhood nightmares was "Klim," a dried whole milk, with its lumps--my mother could never get the lumps out but wouldn't let me leave them behind in my cup, either. It wasn't long before the sight of even a single lump was enough to make me gag--and it still does! When I was about ten I took over mixing my own cocoa (I never could drink it plain) on trips, and quietly dumped behind a bush the lumps I couldn't get out. (Yes, I know that was ecologically unsound, but I was desperate!)

When I grew up I started using Carnation Instant Milk (which is, of course, a skim milk product). It seemed to be the best-tasting of the dried skim milk products, not that that meant much. But at least it would dissolve, unless you poured rapidly boiling water directly onto it. I used Milkman a few times, but didn't find it any better than skim milk (it mixes up to a 0.5% fat milk). I tried supermarket brands, but Carnation was a little less noxious.

More recently I found a few organic dried skim milk brands. They tasted a little better but the lump problem again reared its ugly head. And they are a lot more expensive.

Since I drink skim milk at home and dislike the taste of whole milk, I haven't tried Nido.

None of the many brands I've tried seem to taste good hot with coffee (I'm a latte/cafe au lait addict at home). I've given up on coffee altogether outdoors and drink either tea or just water at breakfast, depending on whether or not I feel like lighting up the stove. On the other hand, they all taste fine in cocoa, as long as no lumps form.

I have finally gone back to Carnation Instant, which seems to be the quickest dissolving. The Carnation tastes OK on cereal (I dump a couple tablespoonsful on my muesli or granola in a ziplock sandwich bag when packing and then add water just before eating out of the bag). I always add some dried fruit to my cereal (except in huckleberry season) which helps disguise the milk taste. Carnation Instant works fine in cocoa--the trick being either to mix up the cocoa/milk mixture with a little cold water ahead of time and then adding boiling water, or using not-too-hot water, adding it slowly and mixing as you go). I take cocoa only when my grandkids come along. I take calcium pills along so I don't worry about the small amount of milk I'm getting out on the trail.

As CamperMom states, any dried milk will go bad if left too long on the shelf at room temperature. I buy a small box at a time. The stuff can be used at home in cooking, so you don't need to waste leftovers. If you refrigerate or freeze the opened container, be sure to let it warm to room temperature before opening so it doesn't have moisture condensing on it.
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#57676 - 10/11/07 06:38 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: OregonMouse]
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I can sympathize about milk lumps. As a kid the cream that rose to the top of non-homogenized milk bothered me, as did the skin that formed on top of hot milk and cocoa.

Now Nido and Klim are different branding for the same product. I've seen the cans side by side at a large Asian market.

I suspect lumps are less of a problem now, but the whole milk still isn't quite as easy to mix as non-fat. The package recommends adding the powder to the water. Since I use it mainly for cooking, any mixing problems don't bother me as much as they might if I drank it straight.

paulj

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#57677 - 10/12/07 12:35 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: OregonMouse]
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Well, I picked up a couple large cans of Nido at wal-mart when I was in Vegas. It mixes up
very well when I add the powder to the water, without too much grief.

For me, I find it tastes fabulous - to put that in context, I have dehydrated skim here and find
it kinda nasty, however I normally have only skim milk in the house. so, for me nido actually tastes
like kind of a real treat! - I'm only using it backpacking through.

Nido's made in a couple of places though - my cans say they come from Chile..
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#57678 - 10/21/07 02:19 AM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: CamperMom]
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To keep Nido (and any other fatty products, like Milkman, nuts, chips) from going rancid, you can either buy a vacuum sealer, a commercial oxygen scavenger packet, or take the cheap way out by using a disposable hand warmer (Hot Hands brand or similar that contain iron powder, salt, charcoal, and vermiculite). Putting one in the can will keep Nido fresh for many months. You can extend that to many years if you transfer the Nido to a clean, airtight jar. The hand warmer uses up all the oxygen so the fats can't go rancid and as a bonus, nothing that requires oxygen can grow. Opening and closing the container shouldn't cause any problem as the heat pack is designed to react with quite a bit of air - probably 50 or more containers worth. If you worry about having the pack mingle with your food, just stick it to the lid or put it inside another cloth bag.

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#57679 - 10/23/07 06:57 AM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: NiytOwl]
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.... or find a buddy who is a wine snob and has a nitrogen system at home <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif" alt="" />
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#57680 - 10/23/07 08:38 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: NiytOwl]
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Quote:
To keep Nido (and any other fatty products, like Milkman, nuts, chips) from going rancid, you can either buy a vacuum sealer, a commercial oxygen scavenger packet.


I will have to agree with this I to use a vacuum sealer and the better models can do liquids..and have jars or and have lids that work on the jar that the food came in and I just thought all back packers had one never gave it any thought, that not all people use them but it solves many problems spoilage get it out once bag up many of your pack items you want to eat like remade dry meals your very own mountain house meals , bag them and put them in a Tupperware container and grab what you need on your way out the door .. And one of my tricks is to load the bag then add the water to it so I can get a idea of how much bigger to make it. Then out on the trail open, add water done.. also you can boil most of the freezer bags
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#57681 - 10/29/07 04:37 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk ?? [Re: tchiker]
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I Have been mixing NIDO with pudding, hot choc, oats, instant taters, coffee. I love the stuff. A small can does not last long. I have not bought the huge can because I do not want it to absorb moisture. I am not sure that it would, but I get a fresh one when the one I have open is getting low. Pudding after supper makes me smile everytime.

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#57682 - 10/29/07 05:55 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk ?? [Re: hootyhoo]
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I'm anxious to try Nido. I ordered some about a week ago from Amazon. I have tried so many powdered milk type drinks with absolutely no luck. Powdered soy, goat, and a zillion different skims, but I have yet to find a truly palatable drink similar to that of milk or soymilk.

Here's what I ordered:


Is this the same stuff as regular Nido?? I got this stuff because it was all that was available with the free super saver shipping.

Eric Kingston

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#57683 - 11/18/07 09:41 AM Re: Good tasting powdered milk ?? [Re: EricKingston]
paulj Offline
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I just looked at a container of this at Walmart. It is a low-fat, high sugar, milk drink mix aimed at kids. What we've been talking about just lists whole dried milk and lecithin in the ingredients.

paulj

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#57684 - 11/19/07 02:31 AM Re: Good tasting powdered milk ?? [Re: paulj]
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Yeah, I found that out a little too late. It doesn't taste nearly as bad as the other powdered milks I've had, but I'd still like to try the regular stuff. I've scoured the isles, and it seems my local Walmart doesn't carry Nido.

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#57685 - 11/19/07 09:19 AM Re: Good tasting powdered milk ?? [Re: EricKingston]
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Eric-

If you are willing to buy the case, MAYBE you could get the WalMart store manager to order it for you. I have only seen the Nido milk in WalMart SuperCenters.

CM

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#57686 - 01/08/08 08:49 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk ?? [Re: tchiker]
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Loc: Coppell, TX
I usually can find whole powdered milk at Whole Foods Markets. The whole powdered milk is the closest thing to liquid milk I found. It really makes potatoes, soups, & cereals taste almost gormet. Brands vary from time to time.

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#57687 - 01/10/08 03:33 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk/freezer bags [Re: McGyver]
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I was on "Glad's" web-site and sent them an e-mail about cooking in their bags. They said that in no way was it safe to cook in their bags. They also said that they did not make a bag that was safe to cook in.(Freezer Bags included) Thought all you guys and girls might want that little tid-bit of information of what "not" take on the trail with you. I don't know about all of you, but the back country is the last place that I want to end up sick, so with that being said, I think that I will continue to play it safe..I also contacted Mountain House and asked was it safe to re-use their bags (because we had been doing it for a while) and they said as long as they were cleaned with boiling water that it was safe to re-use their bags over and over again. I have a couple that I have been using for a while, but the time is coming when even those durable little bags will need replacing, but I don't mind 'cause that's about all we use unless we dehydrate our own food and that's where the re-usable Mountain House bags come in. They are very light and weight wise you really don't even know that you have them. We dehydrate a lot of our own food to keep the expenses down because Mountain House is fairly expensive. Hope this helps every one...sabre11004...



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#57688 - 01/13/08 05:33 PM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: OregonMouse]
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I tried Nido for my morning cereal last summer on a 5 day backpacking trip. I mix the milk and the cereal together in a ziplock bag and just add water. I could never get the lumps out. While the milk tasted fine, the lumps were too distracting for me. I went back to powdered skim milk on the next trip. Lump free, and happy! Carol

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#57689 - 01/14/08 09:20 AM Re: Good tasting powdered milk [Re: brownwetdog]
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Late last year after I smuggled some Nido back, I did a trip with muesli and Nido - I portioned my muesli into a regular small size ziploc, with the Nido inside in a ziploc "snack size" - the ones about half the size of a sandwitch bag - they aren't particularly tough, but don't need to be for this. I would then just add the water into the snack baggie, zip it up,
and (carefully) shake/knead a bit in my hands to break up the lumps and mix well, then crack the snack baggie and dump it into the main ziploc with the cereal. Bag is really
small and light, and means I don't need a seperate container to mix the Nido in.
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