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    #198446 - 06/09/17 10:30 PM Hi another new 'old' guy here
    BigBill Offline
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    Registered: 06/09/17
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    Loc: MI
    I've backpacked off and on since the early 80's. After reading a couple of Colin Fletcher's books I realized there really is no age limit so I'm off again in a couple of days for a few days of solo packing.


    Edited by BigBill (06/09/17 10:49 PM)

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    #198447 - 06/09/17 11:12 PM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: BigBill]
    balzaccom Offline
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    Registered: 04/06/09
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    Originally Posted By BigBill
    I've backpacked off and on since the early 80's. After reading a couple of Colin Fletcher's books I realized there really is no age limit so I'm off again in a couple of days for a few days of solo packing.


    Cool! We'd love a trip report when you get back!
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    #198448 - 06/10/17 08:03 AM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: BigBill]
    Glenn Roberts Offline
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    Registered: 12/23/08
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    Loc: Southwest Ohio
    Your early 80s, or the 1980s? smile (Sorry, couldn't resist.)
    Welcome and keep hiking. At 67 (I also began in the early 80s) I find I can't hike as far as I used to in a day, and can't handle some of the aggressive terrain I used to. I've also learned that the love of the eastern US forests is still as strong as ever, and that the hikes and the nights spent camping are just as sweet.
    I'm also a huge fan of Colin Fletcher. The original Complete Walker got me started.

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    #198449 - 06/10/17 02:58 PM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: BigBill]
    HPD Offline
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    Registered: 12/22/16
    Posts: 32
    Loc: Colorado High Plains
    Welcome BigBill from another Bill and another Colin Fletcher disciple!! I did a lot of backpacking in the 70s & 80s and picked it back up about 20 years ago.

    Hope your solo trip goes well, look forward to hearing about it.

    Nice stove BTW!! I still have mine but it's "retired" now.

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    #198451 - 06/10/17 11:07 PM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: HPD]
    Glenn Roberts Offline
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    Registered: 12/23/08
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    Loc: Southwest Ohio
    I forgot to mention the stove - lots of memories. (Didn't everybody use it?) Mine is now sitting on the bookshelf of a young man that I taught to backpack, helped him earn his backpacking merit badge, and shared many meals cooked over that stove in many great campsites neither of us would have visited if it hadn't been for the other.

    When my wife and I downsized to our condo, he had just finished his tour as a Navy SEAL and was settling into his first house with his wife. It seemed only fitting that he get the stove to use as a bookend for the complete set of Fletcher's hardbound books (all 4 Complete Walkers, plus all the others) that I sent along with it.

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    #198452 - 06/10/17 11:41 PM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: Glenn Roberts]
    BigBill Offline
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    Registered: 06/09/17
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    Loc: MI
    That particular stove is still new to me, though I have been using it daily since I got it to make sure it's reliable. It'll be the one I take on this trip. Believe it or not I used to take a coleman 400 and a full Sigg bottle of fuel with me. Now, thank goodness I have started to get into ultra light weight backpacking although the ultra part is still a ways off, as is most of the lightweight as well. But it's all lighter than it used to be.

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    #198453 - 06/11/17 07:54 AM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: BigBill]
    GrumpyGord Offline
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    Loc: Michigan
    I still have two of them. Picked up one of them for $15 at a sporting goods store because the pot was missing. I have thought about taking one of them out on a weekend trip just for old times sake.

    Another old guy from Michigan.

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    #198456 - 06/12/17 11:50 AM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: BigBill]
    Dryer Offline
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    Loc: Texas
    I have two Svea 123's and an R-8. Most reliable stoves ever. Bought the R-8 at a yard sale for $5! I still use them all but IF I haul a stove at all in my pack, it will be an Optimus Nova or Esbit....or better yet, super tiny cook fires using twigs. For car camping, I'm likely to have stoves all over the place heating various stuff.
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    #198481 - 06/15/17 09:15 AM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: Dryer]
    skcreidc Offline
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    Loc: San Diego CA
    Svea 123's !!!

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    #198482 - 06/15/17 03:29 PM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: skcreidc]
    shuddleson Offline
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    Registered: 06/19/14
    Posts: 34
    Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico
    quote=skcreidc]Svea 123's !!!
    [/quote]
    The Saturn 5 of stoves. One of the first pieces of kit I bought for backpacking in 1972. I had wanted an Optimus, but a buddy picked this Svea up for less than 10$ in Denver so I was happy. That roar! You know you're cooking when the Svea hit's its stride. I lost the burner plate to mine years ago and went in to the Houston REI. Kid didn't know what I was talking about, I had to ask for an old dude to help me. Haven't used it since except to fire it up before Hurricane Ike hit, just in case. I would break it out for real, but concerned about the gaskets on the relief valve.

    Seen a variety of impressive priming methods over the years. Being a caver, we sure loved a spectacular start up! So welcome fellow old guy!

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    #198483 - 06/15/17 04:15 PM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: shuddleson]
    BigBill Offline
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    Registered: 06/09/17
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    Loc: MI
    You can get replacement gaskets at the fettlebox, https://fettlebox.co.uk/
    priced very reasonably.

    Well my trip was cut short due to extreme weather so I never got the chance to use my Svea as nature intended. But there will be other trips and summer doesn't even start for another week or so.

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    #198485 - 06/16/17 07:18 PM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: shuddleson]
    skcreidc Offline
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    Loc: San Diego CA
    Priming the Svea is half the fun, as long as you don't set everything around you on fire wink

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    #198499 - 06/19/17 07:52 AM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: skcreidc]
    wgiles Offline
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    Registered: 05/19/14
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    Loc: Central Illinois near Springfi...
    I've had fairly good luck finding squeeze bottles of gelled alcohol fuel. It works pretty well for priming. If you cant find gelled alcohol, Stern can be diluted with alcohol to make it flowable. Regular Sterno is made with methanol, but there is a green Sterno that is made with Ethanol. I scrape some green Sterno into an empty paint can and add denatured alcohol to dilute the Sterno. Put the lid on and let it sit a while. Once it gets fluid enough, I pour some into a plastic squeeze bottle.

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    #198500 - 06/19/17 08:03 AM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: wgiles]
    GrumpyGord Offline
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    Loc: Michigan
    What is wrong with the old tried and true method of pouring gas over it and lighting on fire. Just do it well away from flammable stuff. Actually when I used the Svea I used an eye dropper to put gas around the burner for preheat. Never had a lot of problem with lighting the stove.


    Edited by GrumpyGord (06/19/17 08:21 AM)

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    #198501 - 06/19/17 08:52 AM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: GrumpyGord]
    Dryer Offline
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    Loc: Texas
    Exactly. I still use my Sveas and R8 and keep a metal ball point pen barrel as a "primer". Same idea as the eyedropper...I just stick my thumb over the end and pull out enough gas to prime. When it's really cold, the "hold the stove with the valve open in your warm hands to prime" works "sometimes".

    The first time I primed my Optimus Nova....which stores with the valve slightly open (design flaw) primed so vigorously it set the surrounding grass on fire! I've seen people do the same thing with Whisperlites.
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    #198519 - 06/21/17 12:28 PM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: Dryer]
    shuddleson Offline
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    Loc: Albuquerque, New Mexico
    Eye dropper was my go to, but also in cool weather you can just open the valve and hold the tank between your hands to warm the fuel. Just has to be warmer than the surrounding air to create enough pressure to force fuel out and into the cup. Some of my caver friends (don't look at the black on the bottom of my tank, OK?) would heat the tank with a zippo (or campfire) to force fuel into the cup. Or, just open the valve and blow into the tank, stopping when you feel the fuel run down your cheek. Most spectacular at night of course.

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    #198521 - 06/21/17 05:57 PM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: skcreidc]
    Glenn Roberts Offline
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    Loc: Southwest Ohio
    I always loved a rousing game of Poof No Eyebrows. smile

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    #198524 - 06/22/17 12:01 AM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: Glenn Roberts]
    BigBill Offline
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    Registered: 06/09/17
    Posts: 5
    Loc: MI
    Originally Posted By Glenn Roberts
    I always loved a rousing game of Poof No Eyebrows. smile


    That's why I've begun using alcohol for all my priming needs, white gas is a little too energetic and I can't run as fast as I used too.

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    #198543 - 06/22/17 08:50 PM Re: Hi another new 'old' guy here [Re: BigBill]
    balzaccom Offline
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    Registered: 04/06/09
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    Loc: Napa, CA
    If you drink enough alcohol, you get pretty well primed anyway. And then you don't need to light your stove. You're already lit.
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