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#160772 - 01/21/12 04:35 PM Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me.
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I was at the lumber store to fix my front door, which of course malfunctioned at -30.

On the way back went by a sign for a garage sale. somone clearing out an estate of stuff basically.. noticed something interesting, paid 5 bucks (canadian) for it. I'm gonna gointo the garage and see if it works.. however it
appears in good shape.

It burns kero..

Technically it's lightweight.. I suppose.. it doesn't seem
much heavier than my svea..

hmmm..... will post pics if I get it working..
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#160773 - 01/21/12 04:41 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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#160775 - 01/21/12 05:02 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: aimless]
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Bwahahaha.. for 5 bucks canadian:

One brass primus 96.. just the stove, and wrench. it came in an old edwards coffee can. no box (which I understand the originals had).

Judging by the sale, some oldtimers pack stove that was now being garage saled along with everything else in the house as the survivors prepare to clear it out.. Guess I saved it from oblivion.

a little kerosene, a prime with alcohol, woof, just like lighting a svea.













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#160779 - 01/21/12 05:27 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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Great snag... I had a Russian Made knock-off of that same stove.
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#160789 - 01/21/12 08:03 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: BradMT]
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How do you get it to burn sideways like that? ;>)
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#160792 - 01/21/12 08:20 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: balzaccom]
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When I do stuff like that, I get the "aren't you supposed to be fixing the door?" treatment. wink

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#160797 - 01/21/12 08:40 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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#160799 - 01/21/12 08:40 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: skcreidc]
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These stoves, or perhaps newer versions, were standard issue in NZ DOC (Department of Conservation, like our Forest Service) huts in the mid 80's, at least in the huts I stayed in.
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#160800 - 01/21/12 09:58 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: skcreidc]
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Originally Posted By skcreidc
When I do stuff like that, I get the "aren't you supposed to be fixing the door?" treatment. wink


She was at work all day. So I was able to fix the door, buy a stove at a garage sale, buy an oak board to replace the coathook runner, shape the edge of the oak and sand it, start the varathane diamond coate on the oak, fiddle with the stove, clean it, taunt the stove fixated here, fill it up, prime it, fire it, and brag about it..

All while appearing productive and not getting in trouble. grin Awesomeness Achieved. grin


Edited by phat (01/21/12 09:59 PM)
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#160802 - 01/21/12 11:01 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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#160803 - 01/21/12 11:16 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: Franco]
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Originally Posted By Franco


Wow.. from the look of the burner, top plate, screws, knobs, and feet, according to that this is an oldie - it appears to be a version 5 which according to them dates between 1926 and 1931. It might be twice as old as me!



Edited by phat (01/21/12 11:17 PM)
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#160806 - 01/21/12 11:42 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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#160810 - 01/22/12 01:16 AM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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Originally Posted By phat
Originally Posted By Franco


Wow.. from the look of the burner, top plate, screws, knobs, and feet, according to that this is an oldie - it appears to be a version 5 which according to them dates between 1926 and 1931. It might be twice as old as me!

Phat,

Look on the underside of the tank. There should be a one or two letter date code stamped there. There might be some extraneous other markings as well, but generally the tank is stamped in the center with one or two letters. That will tell you the precise year it was made.

NICE stove by the way. Major score.

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#160819 - 01/22/12 09:15 AM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: Hikin Jim]
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Sheesh, if its that old, it hardly looks used (at least compared to others on the web sites I checked out). Its in great shape. Nice!

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#160826 - 01/22/12 11:54 AM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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We are overwhelmed by your awesomeness, Phat. awesome

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#160841 - 01/22/12 02:53 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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Great find. They go for about $100 on Ebay with the original tin box. I remember using these for backpacking and thinking they were really lightweight, but that was 50 years ago. Not sure what its in the "Liteweight Zone" for:-)

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#160842 - 01/22/12 03:02 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: Steadman]
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We are overwhelmed by your awesomeness, Phat. awesome


I'm only working hard toward my ultimate career goal "professional kept man" grin
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#160846 - 01/22/12 03:46 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: Hikin Jim]
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Originally Posted By Hikin Jim
Originally Posted By phat
Originally Posted By Franco


Wow.. from the look of the burner, top plate, screws, knobs, and feet, according to that this is an oldie - it appears to be a version 5 which according to them dates between 1926 and 1931. It might be twice as old as me!

Phat,

Look on the underside of the tank. There should be a one or two letter date code stamped there. There might be some extraneous other markings as well, but generally the tank is stamped in the center with one or two letters. That will tell you the precise year it was made.


It has a little circle on the bottom of the tank with the letters "AB" over top of the number "21" in it.

So, stove nerds - what does that mean?

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#160847 - 01/22/12 04:03 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: aimless]
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I was off utilizing two other stoves on a o/n bp trip. A MSR Dragonfly w/Dragon Tamer cap and a Baby Enders. smile I have three 96's now, one from the 1920's and a 96 Pocket. So there! I wish any one of my stoves only cost $5, Canadian or other wise. frown

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#160848 - 01/22/12 04:03 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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Yes but you need to work on your terminology.
"Fixated" may be accurate but at the same time so unkind
(of course Jim lost touch with reality a long time ago so no kind and descriptive word can be found for him)
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#160849 - 01/22/12 04:13 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: Franco]
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no kind and descriptive word can be found for him

unique?

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#160854 - 01/22/12 04:48 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: aimless]
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If Jim is rich, you can call him eccentric. I suppose you could call it culina-mania... either way his blog is definitely entertaining!

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#160860 - 01/22/12 05:12 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: skcreidc]
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Originally Posted By skcreidc
If Jim is rich, you can call him eccentric. I suppose you could call it culina-mania... either way his blog is definitely entertaining!


It's ok, google found his pics here:

https://plus.google.com/photos/110054622546394521424/albums/5429246800072219249?banner=pwa

my primus looks very much like his - however I don't have the nice cool leather case his seems to have - that's pretty spiffy.

Mine was inside what appeared to be an early 80's vintage "edwards" brand coffee can. No box or anything, just what's in my pictures and the little wrench.

I'm kind of wondering what it would take to pack it down into something sane to take with me somewhere - and what I should do to make sure I don't get smelly kerosene all over my pack from it!

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#160869 - 01/22/12 06:46 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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Originally Posted By phat
It has a little circle on the bottom of the tank with the letters "AB" over top of the number "21" in it.

So, stove nerds - what does that mean?
AB = 1937. Dude, you scored. That stove is in excellent condition. NICE!

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#160871 - 01/22/12 06:48 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: Franco]
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Originally Posted By Franco
(of course Jim lost touch with reality a long time ago so no kind and descriptive word can be found for him)
Franco
"Stove tragic?"

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#160872 - 01/22/12 06:49 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: skcreidc]
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Originally Posted By skcreidc
If Jim is rich...
I wish. Sigh.

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#160873 - 01/22/12 06:53 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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Originally Posted By phat
Originally Posted By skcreidc
If Jim is rich, you can call him eccentric. I suppose you could call it culina-mania... either way his blog is definitely entertaining!


It's ok, google found his pics here:

https://plus.google.com/photos/110054622546394521424/albums/5429246800072219249?banner=pwa

my primus looks very much like his - however I don't have the nice cool leather case his seems to have - that's pretty spiffy.

Mine was inside what appeared to be an early 80's vintage "edwards" brand coffee can. No box or anything, just what's in my pictures and the little wrench.

I'm kind of wondering what it would take to pack it down into something sane to take with me somewhere - and what I should do to make sure I don't get smelly kerosene all over my pack from it!

Ah. You found my photos. smile

If you look at this photo, this is what you need:


This is a "travel cap." For travel, you take down the pot supports, unscrew the riser tube, and install the travel cap. The travel cap prevents the kero from spilling all over. You also need to close the air screw of course.

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#160875 - 01/22/12 06:56 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: Hikin Jim]
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If you look in your photo here:


You can see your travel cap at the top of the photo. You simply unscrew it from the holder. It doesn't actually do anything in its current position. The holder is just a place to park the travel cap so you don't lose it.

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#160880 - 01/22/12 07:35 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: Hikin Jim]
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I'll have to try that and see how it goes. It works pretty good for a 75 year old stove, while all the random pieces aren't there, if it doesn't leak in a bag I might take it out for a ride on my back to somewhere cool.
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#160882 - 01/22/12 07:52 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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We all wish our's ran that nice blue flame. The lipstick vaporiser is in great shape. Great find.

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#160883 - 01/22/12 07:55 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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When I was a boyscout in England we used kerosine stoves. The only problem with them I remember is that the jets tended to clog up. The stoves came with picks to clean them with.

If you hate Esbit you will really hate kerosine.

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#160894 - 01/22/12 09:11 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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Har-uuph! I don't think there is anything unusual about 75 year olds working quite well....indeed!

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#160896 - 01/22/12 09:20 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: Hikin Jim]
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HJ, a lot of useful things were produced in 1937, but we knew that already, didn't we?

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#160898 - 01/22/12 09:33 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: Howie]
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Originally Posted By Howie

If you hate Esbit you will really hate kerosine.


Actually I don't mind the smell of kerosene - I've used it in spike camps a bunch - even have an old xgk set to run on it that I'd use there.

It's smelly, but not like esbit, which to me smells like rotting fish.


Edited by phat (01/22/12 09:33 PM)
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#160911 - 01/22/12 11:01 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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Use K-1, water clear kerosene. Don't get Stove oil, that stuff stinks, kero is not bad.

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#160914 - 01/23/12 12:05 AM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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Originally Posted By phat

I'll have to try that and see how it goes. It works pretty good for a 75 year old stove, while all the random pieces aren't there, if it doesn't leak in a bag I might take it out for a ride on my back to somewhere cool.
Phat,

If you have the wrench, then your stove is pretty much complete. The only thing you're missing is the instructions, box, pricker (jet cleaner), and the little alcohol bottle that used to come with the stove. But those are all extraneous items. The essentials are all there and all in good shape. YOU SCORED BIG.

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#160915 - 01/23/12 12:05 AM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: oldranger]
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HJ, a lot of useful things were produced in 1937, but we knew that already, didn't we?
lol

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#160970 - 01/23/12 04:14 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: phat]
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... paid 5 bucks (canadian) for it. I...


I thought since you's (proper plural form of you) guys figured out how to squeeze oil out of rocks the Canadian dollar is flying high. Isn't $5 (Canadian) like a $100 (real money) now days?

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#160979 - 01/23/12 06:02 PM Re: Ok. the stove fixated are going to hate me. [Re: BZH]
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Originally Posted By phat

... paid 5 bucks (canadian) for it. I...


I thought since you's (proper plural form of you)


I thought that was "y'all" - and then the proper plural form for that was "all y'all" wink


Quote:

guys figured out how to squeeze oil out of rocks the Canadian dollar is flying high. Isn't $5 (Canadian) like a $100 (real money) now days?


Nope it's just about par - or a little above. Once we get the pipeline through to prince george for the chinese tankers that might change...
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