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#155523 - 10/07/11 05:21 PM Re: Planning a trip. Gear List Help [Re: finallyME]
Nick K. Offline
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Registered: 10/06/11
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hehe read the reviews for that knife. 1/4in blade compainion miltary knife.

people talk about using to dig and doing all sorts of wild stuff with em on the regular, thats kinda why im getting such a beefy knife. knifes are used for so much more than cutting. especally a knife like this.

hehe i will keep track of how i dont use the butter knife at all smile but you cant buy titanium spoon and fork alone so i just get the kit.

hehe i shoulda read the title of the website before posting my list smile im not going minimalist. Im pretty sure that i could do 15-20mile hike trip with a sack that is less than 50lb.

you guys talk about 20lb like its retardedly heavy. i have more than 20lb in my backpack everyday for my bikeride to work lol..

and when justifying im just trying to make sure you understand my purpose of having it on the list. its not just "well that looks fun." almost all the items have at least 2 uses for camping. i think im doing pretty good lol. considering that when my dad goes camping with 3 people he brings a full 15'/5' trailer + full truck bed for 2 day camping trip LOL.

i think having everything and the kitchen sink runs in the family.

and just to restate. when i added up weights of everything before i started cutting a few things out the total weight of the bag loaded was close to 35lb. which comes out to around 15% of my body weight. where is a forum for people that want to sweat while hiking? lol

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#155524 - 10/07/11 05:44 PM Re: Planning a trip. Gear List Help [Re: Nick K.]
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[quote=Nick K.

and just to restate. when i added up weights of everything before i started cutting a few things out the total weight of the bag loaded was close to 35lb. which comes out to around 15% of my body weight. where is a forum for people that want to sweat while hiking? lol [/quote]

Come back after you carry the 35 lb pack every weekend for a few months and let us know how much it matters what the pack weighs!

Every single pound matters to me. But I've been backpacking for a few years longer than you have. Maybe you can carry 80 lbs - so what? Why do you want to carry a heavy pack when you can be more comfortable with less?

You can of course carry anything you like. But you came and asked a bunch of people who have done exactly what you're doing - sorry the answer you've gotten doesn't make much sense to you. Wait ten years and a few long backpacking trips and it will!
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#155525 - 10/07/11 06:27 PM Re: Planning a trip. Gear List Help [Re: lori]
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lori
no disrespect wink
i understand your guys side dispite always having a comeback smile

im just trying to get a nice ballance of weight and creature comforts.

and on another note. i just dont understand how you guys can say that no matter how big or strong or fit a person is it has no relivance to how heavy or light a pack could be.

and at your comfort remark, comfort is all relitive. do i pack light and not be as comfortable when camping? or pack a med/heavy ruck and get a nice ballance of both?

its all a balancing act. wink


Edited by Nick K. (10/07/11 06:44 PM)

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#155526 - 10/07/11 06:29 PM Re: Planning a trip. Gear List Help [Re: Nick K.]
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Registered: 09/24/07
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Loc: Utah
When we are talking weights, we are generally talking before food/water/fuel. 35 lbs is really good. I will put money that your pack ends up being more than 50 lbs though. If you fill up the 2 liter bladder, then add another 4.4 lbs of water weight. Fill up your stainless water bottle and then add another 2 lbs. If you are really good at food choice, then add 1.5 lbs a day. I bet you end up around 2 lbs a day, mostly because you probably need more calories than the average person. You don't have all your clothes on that list, only what you are wearing. You still need rain protection and insulation. So basically what I am saying is that that isn't your full list. Put a full list together and then see where you are weight wise.

Hey, in my youth I did many 50-60lb week long trips covering around 50 miles. It was fun and I didn't notice the weight at all. Now I am older and think differently. Don't worry if you are in the 60 lb range. You will be able to do it. If you stay with this activity long term though, I guarantee that you will be changing everything. I did the same.
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#155528 - 10/07/11 06:38 PM Re: Planning a trip. Gear List Help [Re: finallyME]
Nick K. Offline
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Registered: 10/06/11
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@hydration pack weight, i wont keep it full i will get water when needed. not that it matters THAT much. but still.your right about stainless bottle.

jacket will be purchased later (thinkin northface triclimate or columbia equivilant). will carry 2 pairs of pants one pair for most if not all of the weekend and one pair backup justincase. i will trade out underarmour everyday.

also for people a little about me, im 6' 220lb and 24. i dont drive, i commute on a bike everyday for the last 4 years, and i work a very physical job.

"Hey, in my youth I did many 50-60lb week long trips covering around 50 miles. It was fun and I didn't notice the weight at all. Now I am older and think differently."
thanks for saying it can be done if wanted wink i realize it might be a pita but also it could be fine. plus I dont plan on getting old any time soon wink LOL

"I guarantee that you will be changing everything. I did the same."
what hobby does a person not upgrade and change everything when transition from novus to "expert"? laugh


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#155530 - 10/07/11 08:01 PM Re: Planning a trip. Gear List Help [Re: Nick K.]
finallyME Offline
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Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 2590
Loc: Utah
I think you will have a great time. When I was a senior in high school, I took off for a 2 nighter with some buddies. I lived in Everett, so we headed to Mt Baker NF. We had way too much clothes (and the wrong type), low tech equipment, etc. We ended up getting lost and using a day to dry out. I had a lot of fun and learned a lot.

Make sure to take lots of pics and tell us about it.
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#155532 - 10/07/11 08:30 PM Re: Planning a trip. Gear List Help [Re: Nick K.]
Steadman Offline
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Registered: 09/17/09
Posts: 481
Loc: Virginia
As a Danner boot user... for your own sake, if you are buying new, break them in. Reviews that say it takes 40 miles of walking to break them in are not joking (or, at least, my feet weren't laughing...)

Have fun. Enjoy the trip.

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#155534 - 10/07/11 08:40 PM Re: Planning a trip. Gear List Help [Re: Steadman]
Nick K. Offline
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Registered: 10/06/11
Posts: 14
yep.
i own danner quarry alloy toe and wear them 8-9hours a day. they are what made me decide if i was to ever buy outdoor/leather shoe it will be from them. these boots are more comfy than my street shoes.

i <3 danner so much and the factory store is so close, wish me luck in finding a nice pair of boot for real cheap


Edited by Nick K. (10/07/11 08:46 PM)

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#155539 - 10/07/11 09:40 PM Re: Planning a trip. Gear List Help [Re: Nick K.]
Nick K. Offline
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Registered: 10/06/11
Posts: 14
anyone know a good area for just going off trails? i wana just goo and make my own trail.

http://www.amazon.com/Green-Trails-Maps-...7765&sr=1-1

smile

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#155540 - 10/07/11 10:03 PM Re: Planning a trip. Gear List Help [Re: Nick K.]
Nick K. Offline
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Registered: 10/06/11
Posts: 14
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