What's the most profound bit of hiking advice you've ever been given?
Mine came in a backpacking shop,20 years ago, when I asked the salesman whether I should buy a headlamp to supplement my flashlight and candle lantern. He looked at me for a moment, then said: "When it gets dark, go to bed!" ("Idiot!!" was implied.)
That sparked a whole new approach for me, of really asking myself what constituted a "need."
Registered: 02/07/07
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Loc: Ozark Mountains in SW Missouri
Originally Posted By Ron Grinder
It's really about the fun, not the miles.
That advice was actually given to me about canoeing the Buffalo River in AR, but I started having a lot more fun backpacking when I applied it to that too.
I've never read any books about backpacking yet. I think that's because I didn't really want outside influence. I never wanted to ponder someone else's reasons for heading into a wilderness, I had my own and that was all I needed.
I've learned a lot about what I did not need right here, from all of you, and that has actually been quite profound in how I've evolved with my backpacking trips. I supposed I could have learned some of that sooner from books, but I had a lot of fun getting here so I don't have any regrets.
I might read some Colin Fletcher one of these days though. I'm not likely to go any way other than my own now, but it's fun to read about where others have been and what advice they have as a result.
"I've never read any books about backpacking yet. I think that's because I didn't really want outside influence. I never wanted to ponder someone else's reasons for heading into a wilderness, I had my own and that was all I needed."
You'll like Fletcher - you've already captured the essence of his philosophy: books can help, but in the end it's all about what you want, not what "They" think you should want.
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Registered: 02/05/03
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Loc: Portland, OR
I can probably scrounge up a fair number of pieces of good or helpful advice, but when I examine them none of them seem especially profound. On the other hand, my most profound experience while hiking was spending three straight weeks solo hiking on the PCT and hearing nothing but natural sounds the entire time (I arranged my resupply so that I never left the trail).
Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 6800
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
Quote:
"silence is golden"
Sounds good to me!
My favorite, which I've probably posted here before: Occasionally turn around and look at your back trail. It's especially important to do that at trail junctions and any place where the trail seems obscure. This will pay off when you are on your way back!
Besides, you otherwise will never know if something is following you!
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Glenn If I was to make a profound statement or two - lets see: You could be severly injured by a flying object getting down food stuck in a tree. Stand erect and in balance like you were walking down a sidewalk when on steep rock, and keep your weight on the balls of your feet. Only try the difficult things after much practice. and get training befor doing things that could kill you. Never thrash Keep your dog on a leash
Frankly however, other than the potential for death or disaster and avoiding them, there's nothing really profound about hiking or camping other than the view and nature where you go. We're talking about walking in the woods with some gear - its not rocket science and we're not trying to save the Earth - well maybe some of us are, but thats another topic. Jim
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These are my own opinions based on wisdom earned through many wrong decisions. Your mileage may vary.
Profound? no...but its always been helpful for me...
When you hike set a pace you can keep all day:
If you start out like a shot your likely to be wore out when you get to your destination. If you push too hard your also more likely to injure yourself. Take your time.
Every once and a while stop and look around:
Its important to help keep your bearings. Also you can miss some really beautiful and amazing things if your staring at your feet all day. It also helps keep me alert which is important if your backpacking solo.
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Climb the Mountains and get their good tidings... -John Muir
Do not obsess over gear. Use what you have or can borrow. Just get out there and replace it when you can afford to replace it. Make sure that this is something you enjoy before you become too committed.
Standard saying from the old days at NOLS "If you are hungry, cold, hot, tired, or otherwise miserable, you are doing something wrong. Hungry? stop and eat a snack Cold? stop and put on a layer Hot, stop and take off a layer, tired? slow down the pace, Otherwise miserable? Why not stop and camp- a good nights sleep does wonders." These are not the exact words, but you get the gist.
Another one "rules are for fools" judgement trumps rules any day
Registered: 08/16/10
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Loc: San Diego CA
This probably only applies to the guys...
Never pee into the wind. Especially remember that during hurricane strength winds.
Other than that, my dad always told be to be alert at all times and listen/pay attention to my surroundings.
My mom used to say "I don't want to know where you are going, I don't want to know what you are doing, just make sure you come back. Her saying that made me more careful.
Registered: 12/26/08
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Loc: Maine/New Jersey
Since this is in the lite philosophies forum my profound advice would be to someone who is new to shedding pounds and ounces to get down to lightweight, or furthermore ultra lightweight. Don't shed too many things so then you are uncomfortable in camp! Then you can't get a good nights sleep and your next day hiking is going to be miserable and a lot tougher.
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Standard saying from the old days at NOLS "If you are hungry, cold, hot, tired, or otherwise miserable, you are doing something wrong.
Another one, for those of us that guide (from my school's Outdoor Education instructor manual): "If you are cold, your students are freezing; if you are tired, your students are exhausted; if you are hungry, your students are starving; if you are uncomfortable, your students are miserable."
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Loc: Eastern MA, USA
I'd give the same advice about backpacking as I give to new mothers (when asked): Find what works for YOU and do it.
Anything can work for someone some of the time, but nothing works for everyone ALL of the time. Advice is often free, plentiful, and worth what is paid for it.
Keeping an open mind is great advice. (Isn't the clinical definition of insanity, "doing the same thing over and over, expecting different results"?)
If conditions change, you have to adapt - and that means doing the best with what you've got. Keep your plans, and your ideas about gear and method, open to new ideas. Some of the best trips I've been on have not developed quite the way they were planned.
Look up fall down, look down move forward. In many more words; if you are walking whilst gazing around you are more likely to trip on an object that you didn't notice. These are the words of my father.
Look up fall down, look down move forward. In many more words; if you are walking whilst gazing around you are more likely to trip on an object that you didn't notice. These are the words of my father.
Sound advice that I can agree with ,welcome to the forums
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Some peopole live life day by day. Try step by step.
It is real simple for this group, don't worry about what others think of your decisions if they are based on experience.
It is the people with little experience that are concerned about being looked down upon. Backpacking is a personal experience with lots of room for different interpretations of what is right.
time your breathing with your steps going uphill for aerobic aid. Probably one inhale per 2 steps and one exhale per 2 steps. Jim
I like this Jim and I functions similarly. Sometimes if I'm winded I'll take 3 steps of long inhale and then 2 steps worth of fast strong exhales... I figure I need the extra step for oxygen. *dizzy head... *CRASH*
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I always forget and make it more complicated than it needs to be...it's just walking.
Or, as John Wayne put it in The Train Robbers, "It means you're a man now; you'll spend the rest of your life getting up one more time than you're knocked down." (He was using "man" in the context of "adult," the conversation was about people maturing, not about any inherent differences between men and women.)
From my Dad, one of the greatest people I have ever met: "When you wake up in the morning you can decide to be happy or sad. Pick happy, it makes for a much nicer life".
good advice - not generally taken these days as everyone is in a hurry. I'd like to ad to that - some of the best places are 500 feet from the road and everybody charges past. Don't overlook the easy camping spots - you can carry more gear or food.
Colorado... profound. Yep everyday we decide are we gonna have a good one or a bad one. Jim
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These are my own opinions based on wisdom earned through many wrong decisions. Your mileage may vary.
Or, as John Wayne put it in The Train Robbers, "It means you're a man now; you'll spend the rest of your life getting up one more time than you're knocked down." (He was using "man" in the context of "adult," the conversation was about people maturing, not about any inherent differences between men and women.)
Maybe we could use the word "tough" instead of man.
if you cross over a fence you are probably trespassing. That can turn out badly.
You are never lost, merely temporarily misdirected. So don't panic.
If you listen to music while you walk, you will miss the rattling sound on the other side of the log.
Finally, a paraphrase of a bit of advice given by my old footbal coach. "If walking the trail is no longer fun, get off the trail." (His actual advice was "if the game stops being fun, get off the field")
Unhappiness arises when you compare the current moment to some other idealized version of it. (Thank you, Zen Buddhism!)
The map is not the territory. (This means more than just "your topo might be inaccurate." Basically, every conceptualization is at least a necessary approximation and and worst wrong.)
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"Stand in the ways and see, and ask for the old paths, where the good way is, and walk in it; then you will find rest for your souls."
I thought I was noticing a Douglas Adams philosophy in this thread!
I guess the saying "two is one, one is none" wouldn't apply too much to lightweight hiking...but it can be important if your source of fire fails, or if your backpack strap blows out (as mine did).
If not a backup, at least the knowledge and means to improvise a fix.
Best piece of advice has been given to me many times in the last couple years and in a few different ways, whenever I've considered hiking the AT: "Go do it."
Best piece of advice I'd give someone out backpacking would be, "Take care of your body, and feed it well."
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