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#144791 - 01/13/11 09:31 AM Re: Llama ***** [Re: sjohnny]
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sjohnny...How do your lamas do with your dog. The ones I've run into don't seem to like mine. grin

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#144793 - 01/13/11 10:08 AM Re: Llama [Re: skcreidc]
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In general, llamas don't like canines. One's own llamas with one's own dog may be an exception but, personally, we keep ours separate or very, very close and under our control. But then, we have a group of llamas and only one dog...

Llamas do well as guards against coyotes and could even work against wolves. But in the anecdotes I've read, llamas don't handle pack aggression well. Hence their general success against coyotes and their general failure and fatality when facing wolves.

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#144795 - 01/13/11 10:51 AM Re: Llama [Re: skcreidc]
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The dogs I have now don't go out in the field unless they're with me and Milo (the V) tends to stay away from the llamas so they don't care - he's more interested in birds and rabbits. As long as the dogs keep their distance the llamas are fine - they keep an eye on them though. There have been a couple of instances where I was pretty sure the llamas were going to kill a couple of our other dogs who just wouldn't back off - one was a min-pin and another was a yorkie.

We had an incident with two large dogs (one about 80 and the other about 100lbs) about a year ago that had killed a couple of goats over the course of a week. The goats had gone off away from the herd so were unprotected. I was at home when they made the last attack they ever will. When I got out there the llamas were doing a pretty good job of keeping them occupied and away from the smaller animals. You could hear the thud when their feet made contact with the dogs. The problem with them being in the middle of it was it made it harder for me to get a good shot.

I have also had my butt kicked on two separate occassions by llamas (long stories). The first time I couldn't get out of bed for a day and missed the following day of work. The second time I missed a day of work. They are powerful animals. I'm a pretty good sized guy - 6'4" 2somethingmorethanI'dlike (and a defensive tactics instructor) but these animals are 350 to 500 lbs of muscle and they'll tear you up when they get riled. Most of the time they're very gentle.

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#145667 - 01/31/11 10:49 PM Re: Llama [Re: Jimshaw]
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I used to be a llama guide here in Mt. We would seldom get more than 5-6 miles of aggressive hiking out of them per day. Anything further than that and you might have a 300 + lb wool rug laying in the trail. Once they lay down, it can be hard to get them up again. As for as weight, we would load them with between 40-80 lbs dependent on their age and sizes. They are interesting creatures, not the most friendly pets though.
The spitting is way over blown. They will spit at each other, but the only time I ever had one spit at me was when they were sick and we were trying to treat.

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