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#137401 - 08/08/10 09:33 PM Re: Quilts? [Re: prone2wander]
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Originally Posted By prone2wander
This is what I don't understand about quilts, where is the weight savings? I only ask because from what few quilts I have found they all weigh more than my Western Mountaineering sleeping bags and my sleeping bag has a hood and the quilts don't. I understand wanting more room than a sleeping bag but other than that is there any advantage? Are there actual quilts lighter than what I list below?

All 6' models and weighed in ounces. The Highlite only has a 1/2 zip.

Caribou 35 20.5 Megalite 30 24.5 Alpenlite 20 31.1 Highlite 40 17.0


When you compare, you have to compare apples to apples. If you use western mountaineering as one example, then you have to use a quilt that is of the same quality and materials.
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arc alpinist 20F 22oz
arc edge 40F 12oz
arc ghost 32F 16oz
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#137407 - 08/08/10 10:30 PM Re: Quilts? [Re: prone2wander]
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Maybe a better way to say it is a lighter option that better suited my needs; the quilt is definitely lighter than the bag I was using!

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#137410 - 08/08/10 11:29 PM Re: Quilts? [Re: GDeadphans]
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a quilt is another name for a blanket. It happens that BPing "quilts" are not quilts at all, they are half sleeping bags. Often I cover myself with an open sleeping bag rather than zipping it up, but I have the option of getting into it if its cold. Hammockers of course cut their sleeping bag in half and put half under the hammock and half over and call it a quilt and think its a new idea. Why not buy a used bag and cut it in half yourself?
Jim
BTW I live in Sisters Oregon and we have the worlds largest outdoor quilt show. I was told "Quilts are not insulated because quilts are not blankets, they are art that goes over the blanket" - read bed spread.
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#137428 - 08/09/10 10:43 AM Re: Quilts? [Re: prone2wander]
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Originally Posted By prone2wander
This is what I don't understand about quilts, where is the weight savings? I only ask because from what few quilts I have found they all weigh more than my Western Mountaineering sleeping bags and my sleeping bag has a hood and the quilts don't. I understand wanting more room than a sleeping bag but other than that is there any advantage? Are there actual quilts lighter than what I list below?

All 6' models and weighed in ounces. The Highlite only has a 1/2 zip.

Caribou 35 20.5 Megalite 30 24.5 Alpenlite 20 31.1 Highlite 40 17.0


Caribou $275 to $295
Megalite $340 to $370
Alpenlite $410 to $445
Highlite $260 to $280

Many of the quilts use synthetic insulation, and it isn't exactly kosher to compare a premium quality down bag to a synthetic article on the basis of weight.

In other words, your selection of WM bags as a comparison for ALL quilts is a loaded magnum gun in your favor.

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#137429 - 08/09/10 10:47 AM Re: Quilts? [Re: Roocketman]
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So, are you inviting him to "make your day"? grin

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#137457 - 08/09/10 04:51 PM Re: Quilts? [Re: DTape]
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Originally Posted By DTape
For a point of reference for you, I own and use a JRB Hudson River quilt (2.5in loft, 20oz), I use it in temps in the high teens. For a 6' person the long at 22oz would be a similar comparison. The Old Rag Mt quilt at 27oz (3.5in of loft) is good for single digit temps.

http://www.jacksrbetter.com/Rectangular%20Quilts.htm


Thanks, that's what I wanted to know. The weights are better than what I have seen.

When you took the bag down to the high teens can you share some additional info as to what your were wearing, head wear etc. I am trying to get a feel for quilts and see if I can drop additional weight.

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#137523 - 08/11/10 06:31 AM Re: Quilts? [Re: prone2wander]
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from bottom up: clean dry wool socks, midweight longjohns, midweight LS merino wool baselayer, fleece balaclava, synthetic knit hat.

FYI I use these in a hammock so I have to deal with insulation below me in a slightly different way than a ground setup. I am also a warm sleeper in general.
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#137531 - 08/11/10 01:56 PM Re: Quilts? [Re: DTape]
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Thanks D-Tape!


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#137663 - 08/15/10 10:48 AM Re: Quilts? [Re: DTape]
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goodjob

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