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#133432 - 05/10/10 10:34 AM Help me choose my new tent please
MarkNM Offline
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Registered: 05/03/10
Posts: 141
Loc: Pompton Lakes, NJ
replacing my Eureka Spiteifre...i'm imtermidate no longer a begninner but still appreciate the advice of those who know more than I...thanks again!
New Tent
Only one choice allowed


Votes accepted starting: 05/10/10 10:33 AM
You must vote before you can view the results of this poll.
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#133444 - 05/10/10 12:04 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: MarkNM]
ohiohiker Offline
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Registered: 07/20/07
Posts: 127
Loc: Ohio
I chose the Scarp 2 (on order) because I want to use it for both winter and summer. For summer, you really need the mesh inner, and for winter, it would be really nice to have the solid inner.

I'm also experimenting with a GoLite Shangri-La 3 with bug netting I'm sewing and Velcroing in instead of using their heavy "nest" option.


Edited by ohiohiker (05/10/10 12:05 PM)

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#133448 - 05/10/10 01:00 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: MarkNM]
countr21 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 48
Loc: Denver, Colorado
I am a 3 season only BP'r and I don't think you can beat the Seedhouse for such use. It's strong, roomy, and pitches in an instant.

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#133454 - 05/10/10 02:02 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: MarkNM]
Glenn Offline
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Registered: 03/08/06
Posts: 2617
Loc: Ohio
At 3 votes for the Scarp v. 3 votes for the Seedhouse, we're acting a lot like lawyers: If we're as smart as we want you to think we are, how come half of us are always wrong? grin

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#133497 - 05/11/10 01:20 AM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: Glenn]
CJC Offline
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Registered: 04/16/04
Posts: 738
Loc: Southern Nevada
I would suggest the Scarp. Can be setup fly first and then the tent body second much easier then the other 2. When the heavens really open and it is coming down the inside will stay nice and dry where as the other 2 might be kinda wet! You can set them up so the inside stays dry, but it is not as easy.

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#133522 - 05/11/10 09:48 AM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: CJC]
MarkNM Offline
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Loc: Pompton Lakes, NJ
Remember do to cost I'm sticking to the Scarp1...not the two man....

its not too cramped is it?

also does anyone know if the 2010 moifications are in production yet?
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#133525 - 05/11/10 11:34 AM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: MarkNM]
ohiohiker Offline
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Registered: 07/20/07
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Loc: Ohio
I've heard the Scarp 1 has plenty of room, and the dimensions seem to confirm this. I chose the 2-person version because I'll often have another person with me.

The Scarp 1 is in production. I think tents with the 2010 mods have already shipped, but sold out and a new run is being done.

Henry Shires keeps his customers will informed about what's going on. Very impressive!

See this status page:
http://www.tarptent.com/ordering.html

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#133555 - 05/11/10 08:17 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: ohiohiker]
Franco Offline
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Loc: Australia
From now on both the Scarp 1 and 2 will be of the 2010 type.
Henry is off to Scotland to do the TGO challenge (using the Moment)
Franco
franco at tarptent dot com

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#133639 - 05/13/10 09:50 AM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: Franco]
MarkNM Offline
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Posts: 141
Loc: Pompton Lakes, NJ
tarptent's website is stating that as of may 11th the Scarp1 is in production...
I assume that means its currently being manufactured...or does it mean its in production ready to go?

Should i wait for the TGO challenge to be over before ordering?

I have some time before my big trip but would like to use the tent some to get comfortable with the setup/packing etc
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#133677 - 05/13/10 07:17 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: MarkNM]
Franco Offline
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"Should i wait for the TGO challenge to be over before ordering?"
Tarptent is shipping out tents as I write this, whilst Henry is having fun.
Fiddling with the tent before real use is a great idea. Take your time doing that, each tent has it's own peculiarities so get to know them.
Here is my video clip on setting up the Scarp
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XWE0gx7rSXU&feature=channel

Franco

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#133711 - 05/14/10 01:53 AM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: Franco]
MarkNM Offline
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Loc: Pompton Lakes, NJ
pretty quick there sir...
i'll go through with the order then...the site is misleading saying some items are in stock and others are in production...

i thought that meant the Scarp1 was currently being manufacuterd and not ready for sale...thanks!
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#133715 - 05/14/10 02:47 AM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: MarkNM]
Franco Offline
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Loc: Australia
Sorry, maybe my comment was not very clear.
The tents that are in stock at Tarptent (Nevada City) are shipping , that happens with or without Henry being there.
The tents listed as "in production" are bing manufactured in Seattle , then shipped to Tarptent.
The orders are processed first come , first served. So if you place an order now for a Scarp 1 you get in line to receive your tent when it arrives at Tarptent.
BTW, I don't get paid for this, it is just to inform you on what is happening...
Franco

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#133716 - 05/14/10 03:11 AM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: MarkNM]
ChrisFol Offline
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Registered: 07/23/09
Posts: 387
Loc: Denver, Colordo
Originally Posted By MarkNM
pretty quick there sir...
i'll go through with the order then...


I own both the Moment and the Double Rainbow-- I also had a Contrail-- and I can vouch for the quality, you will not be disapointed.

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#133736 - 05/14/10 01:05 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: ChrisFol]
MarkNM Offline
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Registered: 05/03/10
Posts: 141
Loc: Pompton Lakes, NJ
well i'll order today then, as i'm planning a mt marcy trip june 11th/12th and would like to test it out
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#133880 - 05/18/10 02:30 AM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: MarkNM]
countr21 Offline
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Registered: 03/02/10
Posts: 48
Loc: Denver, Colorado
The BA Seedhouse SL2 is on sale at REI during their anniversary sale. Regularly $320 but is on sale for $230. That's 29%...pretty serious sale price.

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#133968 - 05/19/10 08:15 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: countr21]
MarkNM Offline
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Registered: 05/03/10
Posts: 141
Loc: Pompton Lakes, NJ
WEll my credit card was billed today, and based on the emails from tarptent i should assume that means it has shipped...
any idea how long it will take to reach me here on the east coast? I'm working from home the next few days and would love to pitch my Scarp and shoot some emails out from my yard!
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#133992 - 05/20/10 12:09 AM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: MarkNM]
OregonMouse Offline
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Registered: 02/03/06
Posts: 6401
Loc: Gateway to Columbia Gorge
You'll get a shipping notice via email (if you haven't already) with a UPS tracking number, so you can follow it across the country!
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#134408 - 05/29/10 12:40 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: MarkNM]
bmwrider Offline
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Registered: 07/31/08
Posts: 94
Loc: Michigan, just N of detroit
I have been in the quarter dome 1 and the SL1 I the SL1 is lighter and has more room, even better get the fly creek 1 (which I own) the problem with the scarp 1 is its not a full two wall tent and would have more condensation than the others due to a lack of mesh in the roof, which is where most of the water condenses and then drips on you, this is not opinion just the way condensation works so I would think about this before you make up your mind.

Fly creek ul1 2lbs 3ozs with space on your sides to spare and great ventilation thats why I choose it.

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#134464 - 05/31/10 08:31 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: bmwrider]
CWF Offline
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Registered: 08/22/06
Posts: 266
Originally Posted By bmwrider
I have been in the quarter dome 1 and the SL1 I the SL1 is lighter and has more room, even better get the fly creek 1 (which I own) the problem with the scarp 1 is its not a full two wall tent and would have more condensation than the others due to a lack of mesh in the roof, which is where most of the water condenses and then drips on you, this is not opinion just the way condensation works so I would think about this before you make up your mind.

Fly creek ul1 2lbs 3ozs with space on your sides to spare and great ventilation thats why I choose it.


Of course the Scarp 1 is a double walled tent. The inner wall helps manage exactly what you are referring to - condensation. If it does drip, it will drip onto the inner tent wall, not your sleeping bag. It really has it all over the Fly Creek - dual vestibules, dual doors, and superior ventilation. Oh yes, and more width, more length, and much more headroom.


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#134466 - 05/31/10 08:46 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: CWF]
Franco Offline
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Registered: 04/05/04
Posts: 998
Loc: Australia
This is the fabric inner of the Scarp


and this is 1 liter of water inside that fabric. I had that up for 12 hours , no drips. Keeping a finger against it and letting go did not make any difference.

Franco

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#134504 - 06/01/10 12:21 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: Franco]
MarkNM Offline
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Registered: 05/03/10
Posts: 141
Loc: Pompton Lakes, NJ
mine hasn't shipped yet:/

Didn't know you could pitch the interior sepreate with the cross poles...pretty crazy demonstration of the water too...lol...lets hope i'm never lyning underneath that tho
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#134520 - 06/01/10 06:20 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: Franco]
DJ2 Offline
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Registered: 01/06/02
Posts: 1347
Loc: Seattle, WA
Franco,

Interesting demo. I'm a little confused, however. Why would the inner tent be so water resistant? Wouldn't one want maximum porosity in the inner tent?

I just ordered a Scarp 2, by the way.

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#134524 - 06/01/10 07:45 PM Re: Help me choose my new tent please [Re: DJ2]
Franco Offline
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Registered: 04/05/04
Posts: 998
Loc: Australia
That fabric does breath very well and the water resistance in a way is a bit deceiving.
As a static hold it does keep that much water and probably more (I just put a liter because most can relate to that) and I know that it can take a good shower (I discovered that when I did the freestanding inner bit) however it will not take solid rain.
So in effect it works very well as a drip barrier but still breathes .
The reason I did that inner freestanding bit was simply because the usual critics came out with that objection (you know the : great tent but...you cannot have the inner up by itself") not that many do that but was just to show it can be done.
(I made my own pockets to sit the poles in, the pocket connect to the four corners)
In reality if you leave both doors open there is plenty of exposed areas with the fly still on.
Franco

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