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#115925 - 05/13/09 07:44 AM Measuring water
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How do you guys measure water. For example say you need two cups of water for something you are cooking. How do you accurately measure this (I assume nobody brings a measuring cup)?


Edited by rvamutt (05/13/09 09:33 AM)

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#115927 - 05/13/09 08:53 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: rvamutt]
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I use the bottom of a yogurt or sour cream container as my drinking cup, then at home, I use a felt marker to mark increments on the outside. It goes in my pot and doesn't make any rattling noise.

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#115928 - 05/13/09 09:07 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: rvamutt]
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Quote:
(I assume nobody brins a measuring cup)

Not quite everyone. I carry a GSI Cascadian plastic cup with the handle cut off. It is sturdy, easy on the lips with hot drinks, non-toxic and it weighs 1.6 oz. It has measurements from 1/2 to 1-1/2 cups cast into the inside of the cup. This is both my hot drink cup and my measuring cup.
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#115931 - 05/13/09 09:25 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: Pika]
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I have a small plastic cup that has measurements on it. But, most of the time, a guess will do.
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#115933 - 05/13/09 09:29 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: finallyME]
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I use the cup/bowl in my GSI Soloist. It has markings from 4 ounces and up!
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#115937 - 05/13/09 09:58 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: rvamutt]
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Practice. With experience and practice, one can get pretty good at estimating quantities. The Scouts use to teach (do they still?) how to estimate measurements and also taught to use body parts to help, e.g., the width of a hand, the length of a knuckle, etc. Liquid volume measurements might be a little trickier but knowing the capacity of gear you carry or, e.g., how much is in a half-filled baggie, will let you get away from carrying a (single purpose) measuring cup.

That said, I carry a clear, Lexan-like insulated mug that has the volume levels clearly marked. Mine is from Campmor but I've seen the same thing at REI (just different logos). I really like the mug...it's fantastic at keeping things hot for a very long time. The one down side -- it weighs nearly 6oz. (Thermo Measuring Mug #82540-B $4.99)

If you or others choose to go with this mug, here's a tip: The plastic lid from a canister of Progresso bread crumbs fits the mug perfectly...providing a tight, secure seal. It adds a little bit more to the insulation and keeps the creepy crawlers and flyers out of your hot chocolate. The color even matches the markings on the mug. grin

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#115938 - 05/13/09 09:59 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: rvamutt]
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In the 1970's, I carried genuine Sierra Club stainless wire handled cup. I scribed on the inside with a carbide marking tool the levels for 4, 8, 12 and 16 ounces of water. Use a measuring cup and a flat surface to fill the Sierra Cup to the levels and scratch away. I also scratched identifying marks on the bottoms of my Sierra Cups so that when I hosted a small party out backpacking, everyone could know their own cup.

Years later, I also used the plastic cup from a thermos bottle and it came with volume markings on the inside.

I don't know from where my current plastic cup with markings comes from. Makes a great coffee cup as the hot rim doesn't burn the mouth when it is plastic.

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#115940 - 05/13/09 10:25 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: sarbar]
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Like sarbar, I use the GSI Soloist cup, if I happen to be using that cook kit. If I'm using my Jetboil, it has a similar cup.

If I'm carrying only a pot (typically titanium, or lately the Optimus Terra Solo), it will be a pot that has measuring marks stamped into it - if the amount of water I need is between two marks, I interpolate (well, OK, it's really just a guess, but "interpolate" makes it sound like I actually know what I'm doing. grin)

In the past, when I used to use Nalgene bottles ("bless me, Platypus users, for I have sinned..."), I used the measuring marks on the side of bottle. Of course, that involved math: "Let's see, I've got 26 ounces of water in here, and I need to put 12 ounces in the pot...hmmm, 26 take away 12...if train A leaves the station..."


Edited by Glenn (05/13/09 10:27 AM)

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#115943 - 05/13/09 11:53 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: rvamutt]
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I carry a no name small plastic cup (capacity 1 cup) for hot drinks and measuring

I also mark my pots, or just practice (knowing that f'rinstance 2 cm below the handle rivet on my GSI pot is about 2 cups)


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#115955 - 05/13/09 01:24 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: Glenn]
sarbar Offline
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Glenn, I will admit I returned to the dark ways of Nalgenes this past year. I finally sucked it up and admitted I preferred them grin So now I once again can measure with 'em!
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#115960 - 05/13/09 02:10 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: sarbar]
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Loc: Memphis, TN
I get a kick out of how Sarbar says that - expecting someone to poke fun at her. LOL Now we get to continually remind you of the 5oz of savings that you are missing out on. Yes, nalgenes weigh more, but if you prefer them - then go for it. HYOH... and I mean it. wink

I always premeasure known liquids at home, then make marks on containers - like other have said. I generally use my SnowPeak mug that has stamped marks in the cup... easy!

Someone please use the term "meniscus" in their response.
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#115965 - 05/13/09 03:20 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: jpanderson80]
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I went to high school with a John Meniscus.

Well, not really, but it was the only way I could think of to work it into the response. I didn't figure anyone would be interested in how you should adjust measurement point because of the surface tension causing the water to have a concave surface.

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#115975 - 05/13/09 04:41 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: rvamutt]
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Registered: 05/04/09
Posts: 17
Loc: S. Chicago, IL
I'm really surprised, I though there would be more ppl that just put some in till it looks right like I do. A little here a little there, dulp to much! But it still seems to come out ok for me that way

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#115977 - 05/13/09 04:51 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: rvamutt]
Slowfoot Offline
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Registered: 04/22/05
Posts: 157
Loc: Missouri
I scratched the most common measurements on to my spoon and hold it upright in my pot to measure the level of water.

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#115978 - 05/13/09 04:54 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: RogerB]
finallyME Offline
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Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 2710
Loc: Utah
Roger that is really what I do, just dump some in. Every so often I actually need some accuracy, but rarely.

Meniscus action doesn't really equate to much once your diameter is larger than say an inch. Especially when measuring water for rehydrating.
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#115994 - 05/13/09 09:42 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: finallyME]
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Two possibilities: (1) Get a plastic mess kit cup (0.8 oz.); they have measurement marks. (2) Put scratch marks on the inside of your pot at the one cup and two cup levels (put in a cup of water and have the pan on a level surface, make the scratches on two sides). For between one and two cups, you can approximate. Believe it or not, the only time you have to measure ingredients exactly when you're cooking is if you are baking cakes from scratch. Approximate works fine for nearly everything else.
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#115997 - 05/13/09 10:38 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: rvamutt]
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Educated guess.

And often.......an uneducated guess.
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#116001 - 05/13/09 11:11 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: sarbar]
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Originally Posted By sarbar
Glenn, I will admit I returned to the dark ways of Nalgenes this past year. I finally sucked it up and admitted I preferred them grin So now I once again can measure with 'em!


Hey I like nalgenes. They're great to pee in or keep warm water in in the winter wink And I can measure my output!
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#116030 - 05/14/09 09:46 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: phat]
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Posts: 541
Loc: Minnesota
You also need to measure exact amounts if you are steaming rice. I have one of those REI palstic cups with marks on the inside.
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#116152 - 05/16/09 09:08 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: rvamutt]
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Registered: 02/02/08
Posts: 75
Loc: The Third Maine
As others have posted, a guess is usually good enough for my measuring needs. However, I still have a 30 year old Palco green plastic measuring cup from a mess kit from my earliest backpacking days laugh And I take it with me everywhere. It's got ounce graduations, and it makes a nice extra drinking cup.

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#116167 - 05/17/09 11:19 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: rvamutt]
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Registered: 11/21/08
Posts: 64
Loc: Atlanta, GA
i'm surprised this is even a question. tons of cookware/cups have measurements on them. I have both:




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#116232 - 05/19/09 10:35 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: energy_turtle]
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Registered: 05/13/09
Posts: 21
Loc: NE US
Originally Posted By energy_turtle
i'm surprised this is even a question. tons of cookware/cups have measurements on them. I have both:





Who makes this SS cup?

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#116261 - 05/19/09 04:19 PM Re: Measuring water [Re: keepitlow]
finallyME Offline
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Loc: Utah
Originally Posted By keepitlow
Originally Posted By energy_turtle
i'm surprised this is even a question. tons of cookware/cups have measurements on them. I have both:





Who makes this SS cup?


I think that is a Snowpeak 700ml made from titanium.
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#116298 - 05/20/09 08:35 AM Re: Measuring water [Re: keepitlow]
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Look closely at the impression on one of the handles.
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