Amazon.com
Backpacking Forums
BackcountryGear.com
backcountry gear

---- Our Gear Store ----
The Lightweight Gear Store
 
 ULTRA-LIGHT 

Ultralight Backpacks
Ultralight Bivy Sacks
Ultralight Shelters
Ultralight Tarps
Ultralight Tents
Ultralight Raingear
Ultralight Stoves & Cookware
Ultralight Down Sleeping Bags
Ultralight Synthetic Sleep Bags
Ultralight Apparel


the Titanium Page
WM Extremelite Sleeping Bags

 CAMPING & HIKING 

Backpacks
Tents
Sleeping Bags
Hydration
Kitchen
Accessories

 CLIMBING 

Ropes & Cordage
Protection & Hardware
Carabiners & Quickdraws
Climbing Packs & Bags
Big Wall
Rescue & Industrial

 MEN'S APPAREL 

Jackets
Shirts
Baselayer
Headwear
Gloves
Accessories

 WOMEN'S APPAREL 

Jackets
Shirts
Baselayer
Headwear
Gloves
Accessories

 FOOTWEAR 

Men's Footwear
Women's Footwear

 CLEARANCE 

Backpacks
Mens Apparel
Womens Apparel
Climbing
Footwear
Accessories

 BRANDS 

Black Diamond
Granite Gear
La Sportiva
Osprey
Smartwool

 WAYS TO SHOP 

Sale
Clearance
Top Brands
All Brands

 Backpacking Equipment 

Shelters
BackPacks
Sleeping Bags
Water Treatment
Kitchen
Hydration
Climbing


 Backcountry Gear Clearance


 WINTER CAMPING 

Shelters
Bivy Bags
Sleeping Bags
Sleeping Pads
Snow Sports
Winter Kitchen

 SNOWSPORTS 

Snowshoes
Avalanche Gear
Skins
Hats, Gloves, & Gaiters
Accessories

Stay Healthy--Eat Well

MARY JANES FARM ORGANIC MEALS

Mary Janes Farm Organic Backcountry Meals

NATURAL HIGH GOURMET MEALS

Natural High

 

Topic Options
Rate This Topic
#115814 - 05/10/09 11:49 PM OutBack Oven baking
300winmag Offline
member

Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
How many of us actually BAKE (as opposed to steaming) when we're backpacking?

I have an OutBack oven hood. It neatly covers my 1.5 L. pots and does double duty in winter as a heat conserving item to melt snow faster. But, with the aneroid thermometer built into the lid handle I can bake whatever I want.

Howsomever, I MUST have a stove with a remote fuel container. It's not safe to use the OutBack Oven with a SVEA 123 or an on-the-canister stove like an MSR Pocket Rocket or Vago Jet-Ti. The fuel container will absolutly overheat with disasterous results.

I've baked cinnamon rolls, Bisquick jelly-filled biscuits, pizza and muffins in my 1.5 L. pots. And on a cold winter evening that is the "piece de resistance" of the meal.

However you must have a stove that will simmer low enough (MSR Dragonfly or Wind-pro, for ex.) A SimmerLite white gas stove may not be able to go low enough W/O a diffuser plate. Backpacker's Pantry, who sells the OutBack Oven, also sells the steel (yeah, heavy) diffuser plates or you can make one from 1/8 thick aluminum by drilling lots of 1/16th in. holes in it, as I did.

My experience is that the Dragonfly is the only liquid fuel stove that will simmer low enough to bake with. We tried my buddy's Simmerlite stove with no luck. I owned a new Optimus multi-fuel stove that, no matter how much I tried, would not simmer low enough. I took it back and got the Dragonfly.

Virtually all canister gas stoves will simmer low enough to bake with the OutBack Oven in my experience but, remember, they must be remote fuel stoves.

I have no experience (yet) with a BushBuddy stove but I'd bet that, with hardwoods, it could bake also. Maybe a diffuser would be needed 'til the flames died down to coals. Then you could feed one or two sticks in at a time to keep it going.

Alcohol stoves likely would not burn long enough to bake with. Otherwise they may be Ok, especially if they have a flame control mechanism. (Ye Gods! I just said mechanism in the same sentence with Alky stoves. Slap my face!)

Let's hear your tales of baking. This is a perfect topic to talk about freezer bag baking ingredients prepared at home and mixed in the bag with water at camp.

Eric

_________________________
"There are no comfortable backpacks. Some are just less uncomfortable than others."

Top
#115816 - 05/11/09 01:37 AM Re: OutBack Oven baking [Re: 300winmag]
intrek38 Offline
member

Registered: 11/29/03
Posts: 430
Loc: Hesperia, Calif
I haven't tried this yet but here's a guy who has..
http://minibulldesign.com/vidbaking.htm

Top
#115826 - 05/11/09 10:33 AM Re: OutBack Oven baking [Re: 300winmag]
sarbar Offline
member

Registered: 07/15/05
Posts: 1453
Loc: WA
I finally coughed up the cash for a MSR Windpro canister stove last year - which I can use with my Outback. So I will be playing with it more. I got the Outback UL Oven for a screaming deal awhile back, at a Trailfest, a dealer deal thing.

Otherwise I steam back. I don't mind not having the brown/crust. Though one thing I have used from the Outback setup is the heat diffuser. It works without the parka when I am doing one pot stuff. It is a great tool for making pan biscuits, etc. Adn I can use it on my regular canister stoves as well.
_________________________
Freezer Bag Cooking, Trail Cooking, Recipes, Gear and Beyond:
www.trailcooking.com

Top
#115841 - 05/11/09 02:47 PM Re: OutBack Oven baking [Re: intrek38]
300winmag Offline
member

Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
So you CAN bake with alcohol. I'd recommend a Backpacker's Pantry aneroid thermometer lid handle instead of the "sizzling water" method.

I do like the corrugated heat diffuser idea inside the pot but I'd be tempted to try it UNDER the pot, where most heat diffusers go.

I noticed the alcohol flame was going out just as the biscuit was done. Hmmm...good timing - or luck?

Eric
_________________________
"There are no comfortable backpacks. Some are just less uncomfortable than others."

Top
#115843 - 05/11/09 02:54 PM Re: OutBack Oven baking [Re: sarbar]
300winmag Offline
member

Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
Sarah,

I never used my Outback heat diffuser B/C I felt it was too heavy. I've used my aluminum diffuser made from a strainer and had good luck with it. However I did have to use 5 aluminum bolts W/ spacer washers & lock washers & nuts to raise the pot bottom off the diffuser. (4 on the perimeter and one in the center) But when I began using my JetBoil pot W/ its Flux Ring bottom corrugated ring I didn't need the bolt risers anymore.

The Outback Oven hood is great for winter camping and fuel savings, esp. when melting snow for water.
I now own two hoods, on the off chance they go out of production or the Russians invade... (Hey, even paranoids have enemies.)

Eric

ERic
_________________________
"There are no comfortable backpacks. Some are just less uncomfortable than others."

Top
#115845 - 05/11/09 03:12 PM Re: OutBack Oven baking [Re: 300winmag]
thecook Offline


Registered: 10/03/08
Posts: 541
Loc: Minnesota
I occasionally bake for one over alcohol. For a lid use aluminum foil with a small, regtangular slit cut to allow steam to escape. Put the bread on aluminum plate (I use a childs cake pan from a kitchen set) and raise it above the bottom of the stove with a ring of metal (I use a 1/2 tall piece cut from a coke can with all the coating sanded off. Now cover the air holes in your stove so it works like a chaffing dish and voila - an oven!
_________________________
If I wouldn't eat it at home, why would I want to eat it on the trail?

Top
#115877 - 05/12/09 11:02 AM Re: OutBack Oven baking [Re: 300winmag]
BarryP Offline
member

Registered: 03/04/04
Posts: 1574
Loc: Eastern Idaho
I remember Gardenville enjoy baking with an alcy stove:
http://www.backpacking.net/archive01/sho...amp;o=&vc=1


Top
#115884 - 05/12/09 02:41 PM Re: OutBack Oven baking [Re: 300winmag]
GrumpyGord Offline
member

Registered: 01/05/02
Posts: 848
Loc: Michigan
A few years ago I went on a snowshoe trip with a few other folks. One of the guys brought an outback oven and made rolls for supper and cinnamon rolls for breakfast for everyone. That is the best way for using an outback oven. Eat the results and have someone else carry the weight and do the actual baking. LOL

Top
#115919 - 05/13/09 03:30 AM Re: OutBack Oven baking [Re: BarryP]
300winmag Offline
member

Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
Barry,

Good pictures. However this is a setup for steaming, not dry, oven baking as I'm describing. Steaming has its uses, for making dumplings and rice cakes for example.

This can also be done in a lighter way by putting a few same-sized pebbles of about 3/4" thick on the bottom of the pot and placing a light circular stainless steel screen over them and then putting just enough water in so that it does not quite touch the screen.


ERic
_________________________
"There are no comfortable backpacks. Some are just less uncomfortable than others."

Top
#115920 - 05/13/09 03:34 AM Re: OutBack Oven baking [Re: GrumpyGord]
300winmag Offline
member

Registered: 02/28/06
Posts: 1342
Loc: Nevada, USA
Gord,

What's bad, very bad, is when the "baker" carries all the ingredients and oven, makes a great cake... and eats it all himself because the other little hens wouldn't help carry the stuff. (Hee, hee, a Henny Penny tale.)

Eric

_________________________
"There are no comfortable backpacks. Some are just less uncomfortable than others."

Top
#115935 - 05/13/09 09:37 AM Re: OutBack Oven baking [Re: 300winmag]
finallyME Offline
member

Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 2710
Loc: Utah
How about solar ovens? Maybe I will make one a try it out.
_________________________
I've taken a vow of poverty. To annoy me, send money.

Top

Shout Box

Highest Quality Lightweight Down Sleeping Bags
 
Western Mountaineering Sleeping Bags
 
Lite Gear Talk - Featured Topics
Bivvy Sack combo Arrangement
by Jim M
10/18/17 01:58 AM
what is the lightest framed backpack around 40L
by toddfw2003
10/16/17 07:23 PM
a worthy challenger to the msr pocket rocket2
by the-gr8t-waldo
10/16/17 01:28 PM
Backcountry Discussion - Featured Topics
Backpacking/Camping Near Savannah, GA
by Sean&Brit
Yesterday at 08:27 PM
Napa Fires
by balzaccom
10/11/17 07:43 PM
Backpacking the Ouachita Trail thanksgiving
by toddfw2003
10/05/17 11:54 PM
Make Your Own Gear - Featured Topics
lightest grommets to use
by toddfw2003
Yesterday at 06:13 PM
alcohol stove comparisons
by Bike_packer
10/03/17 08:56 PM
Can footprint plasticizer harm tent ground-sheet?
by Weston1000
09/10/17 02:24 AM
Featured Photos
Breakneck Ridge, New York
May 2012 Eclipse, Lassen Park
New Years Eve 2011
Trip Report with Photos
Seven Devils, Idaho
Oat Hill Mine Trail 2012
Dark Canyon - Utah
Who's Online
1 registered (), 32 Guests and 0 Spiders online.
Key: Admin, Global Mod, Mod
Newest Members
Sean&Brit, Blackbuzzard, LivelyLiz, Weve, Tones21
12425 Registered Users
Forum Links
Disclaimer
Policies
Site Links
HOME
Backpacking.net
Family Hiking
Lightweight Gear Store
Backpacking Book Store
Lightweight Zone
Hiking Essentials

Outdoor Gear Daily Deals
Outlets, Sales, Bargains

Our long-time Sponsor, BackcountryGear.com - The leading source for ultralite/lightweight outdoor gear:

Backcountry Forum
 
 

Since 1996 - the Original Backcountry Forum
Copyright © The Lightweight Backpacker & BackcountryForum.com