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#94001 - 06/16/08 10:37 AM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: Earthling]
CCH Offline

Registered: 01/27/04
Posts: 124
Loc: Colorado
How is a fixed blade knife more dangerous than an SAK, particularly one that doesn't lock?

I do carry an SAK Farmer as my main tool and it works great and sometimes a small fixed blade depending on my activities but really don't see the need for anything longer than a 4" blade even when hunting. I know a lot of the guys that are really into knives don't feel good without three or four different blades on them for a day hike but just like backpackers have their interests, that is their "thing" and I don't begrudge them their fun.

#94002 - 06/17/08 06:40 PM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: Earthling]
northernbcr Offline

Registered: 05/26/08
Posts: 125
Loc: bc/yukon border area
earthling your suggestion that i am a rambo type is just wrong the area that i live in does not ever require a knife for firestarting this post was about a survival knife and my survival knife can be used as many things one of them being a back up for my large size bear spray. for this you need a knife with certain attributes that is all i was trying to say . there isn't many people here that leave home without survival kit bear spray sturdy knife and usually a12 guage loaded with 1.25 oz slugs that is not rambo but my reality

#94003 - 06/18/08 10:50 AM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: northernbcr]
Earthling Offline

Registered: 02/22/03
Posts: 3228
Loc: USA
Northernerbc <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif" alt="" /> Rambo <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif" alt="" /> No, you are living in an area that carrying that equiptment is reality.

But if you are using a knife as a defensive weapon against bear then I think you need reconsider which knife is better for that purpose. If you need something to fit in a PSK then it can be something sturdier like a Gossman PSK, Becker 'Necker', or BRKT 'Mini NorthStar', or 'Little Creek' (my favorite small knife) <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

For a belt knife, Canadians wrote the book on them many Moons ago...Lots of varieties out there along the lines of Canadian Camp Knives. There's genereally a 'favored carry' knife in specific regions; it may be due to climate, game frequently dressed, or a number of other factors. Sometimes something comes along that catches your eye, and that's the one for you.

Choosing a knife to carry does not make one Rambo; rather the style of the knife and it's design intent does IMO.

#94004 - 07/06/08 02:58 PM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: Earthling]
Beardog Offline

Registered: 04/11/07
Posts: 39
Loc: CA
Wow, this thread has grown. First of all Bryan Breeden is a custom maker and doesn't have a website yet. Since I last posted his blades, he has put out three different models. I wlill try to post more here to keep up to date. For those interested in more Breeden info, email me at Bearthedog76"at"Hotmail dot com.

As for me, I am backpacking every week preparing for Peru for 9 days then flying home for one day, then back up Mt. Whitney. for the week. Writting articles for Tactical knives Magazine on some knife use in Peru and Ultralight Knife use in the Sierras.

Earthling, you mentioned the Gossman PSK, do you have one? I am actually writting an article on it for TK Magazine.
For now I will just use this!!!!!!!

#94005 - 07/06/08 03:36 PM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: Beardog]
Beardog Offline

Registered: 04/11/07
Posts: 39
Loc: CA
Ultralight Hiking/Backpacking Knives

Here are a few light knives from some custom makers. These knives are designed for outdoor utility, with the weight conscious outdoorsmen in mind. I have used these hiking and backpacking in the deserts and mountains of California.

Koyote Knives

Ultralight- Knife 2 ounces, 3 ½ ounces w/leather sheath
Blade Uddeholm 15n20-3 5/8, cutting edge 3 7/16
Super light and super sharp mainly due to the 1/6-inch thin blade and scandi grind. This is a pure cutter and supreme whittler for those that don’t need to baton with your knife.

JK Handmade Knives

Hikers Backup- Knife 3 ½ ounces, 5 ounces w/leather sheath
Blade 01-2 ¾-inch, cutting edge 2 3/8-inch
Overall-5 7/8
Stout and full of cutting power, if this knife was a smurf, he would be Hefty. Lots of knife in a small package.

Hikers Backup 4-inch- Knife 4 ½ ounces, 6 ½ ounces w/leather sheath
Blade 01-4-inch, cutting edge 3 3/4
Overall-8 3/16
This is the heavier of my choices but also the one of the bunch that could easily fill out the Bushcraft all around role; this is mainly due to the full size handle. And larger blade that does well when it comes to baton use.

Breeden knives

PSKK II- Knife 2 1/2 ounces, 4 ounces w/kydex sheath
Blade 01-3 7/8, cutting edge 3 3/4
Overall-7 5/8
Thickness- 3/32
I did an extensive review on this knife where I whittled and used it to baton the 3/32-inch thick blade into large wood. This may be my most used knife around the house along with the JK Nessmuk.

Koyote Knives

JK Handmade Knives

Bryan Breeden or

#111412 - 02/17/09 01:54 PM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: Beardog]
sabre11004 Offline

Registered: 05/05/07
Posts: 513
Loc: Tennessee
Obviously the Mora is a much better built knife. It becomes obvious when you compare the handles. (where my hands always are) The handles on the Mora is much more substantial than the other knife.

On the other side of that thought, a knife is something that I refuse to go ultralight on. Just doesn't seem the right thing to do....I just may have to stick it in a cougars butt and I don't need no screw-ups when that comes to pass....Just my thoughts on the subject...sabre11004...

The first step that you take will be one of those that get you there !!!!!!! grin
The first step that you take will be one of those that get you there 1!!!!!

#111416 - 02/17/09 02:12 PM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: sabre11004]
bigfoot2 Offline

Registered: 09/17/06
Posts: 1432
Loc: Eugene , Oregon
Here we go again! Now Jimshaw will chime in and tell us about his unsharpened scissors and how he skinned one of Phat's "swamp donkeys" with them! thanks sick

BF cool
Hammockers aren't stuck up, they're just above it all.

#114343 - 04/14/09 02:24 PM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: bigfoot2]
TAH Offline

Registered: 04/13/09
Posts: 2
Loc: Indiana
I like knives! grin Thought this would be a good first post.

I've been backpacking (mostly in Indiana and Kentucky) since 1989. I've tried many knives over the years. Here's what I've decided is about the best combination...

Victorinox Classic - 1.3 ozs with scissors and a tweezers for splinter and tick removal.

Benchmade 556 Mini Griptilian - 2.5 ozs, compact, and a strong lock. Stainless blade and Zytel handle make it impervious to weather. Perfect size for all cutting, whittling, and food prep chores.

Sawvivor - 9.5 ozs. A little heavy, but cuts firewood like a chainsaw.

This forum is awesome

#114353 - 04/14/09 04:11 PM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: TAH]
JWE Offline

Registered: 04/08/09
Posts: 70
Loc: Salem OR USA
Depending on where I'm hiking/camping depends on what I carry as far as blades. The Victoronix Swiss Champ is always in my pocket and some sort of fixed blade is on my belt. Usually the partially serrated K-bar. Both are heavy but I feel prepared to face most situations with these. I carried 5 in the service.

#114392 - 04/15/09 10:14 AM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: JWE]
TAH Offline

Registered: 04/13/09
Posts: 2
Loc: Indiana
I use to carry larger SAKs, but I discovered that the Classic is all I need as long as I have the Benchmade, which makes 95% of all my cuts.

If I carry a fixed blade, I leave the Benchmade at home and take a Frosts Mora 860 Clipper from Sweden. $13.00, 3.5 ozs including sheath, clip on sheath, 12C27 stainless blade, and the most comfortable handle that I have ever held - and I've held a lot of knives. grin

#129572 - 02/26/10 02:02 PM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: finallyME]
Ken the Bear Offline

Registered: 02/09/10
Posts: 45
Loc: St Louis
I love my victorinox swiss army spartan. I never leave home without it. I also have a swiss army classic in my med kit.

#199878 - 12/14/17 11:59 PM Re: Ultralight Knives [Re: Ken the Bear]
Jim M Offline

Registered: 11/23/03
Posts: 273
Loc: Kitsap Peninsula, WA
I think the Spartan is nice simple tool that doesn't weigh too much. However isn't the classic a rather redundant? A light weight pair of scissors at most would do the job. Or, better yet, just take the Classic and forget the Spartan. You have to ask your self how many times have you really needed the extra features. the "just in case" scenario is a slippery slope that can add a lot of unnecessary weight.
Jim M

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