liteweight map case

Posted by: the-gr8t-waldo

liteweight map case - 02/09/17 01:23 PM

For the last few years I've been carrying a sea2summit m.c.. It's held up well- maybe too well. My perception is that it's too heavy built for me' and I could/should shave off a few grams here - in addition I find it a pain to open and close. In it I carry most all the Topo's pertaining to the route(about4~6) and a print out of the trail discription. A ziploc bag meant for kitchen use strikes me as too thin , even for mild summertime use. What have you all been using?
Posted by: BZH

Re: liteweight map case - 02/09/17 01:27 PM

I use a ziplock freezer bag. Try to get ones without any printing on them. The name brand ones have a big white slash, which makes it hard to see the map if you wander into that area. They usually last a half dozen trips or so until the seal fails.
Posted by: skcreidc

Re: liteweight map case - 02/09/17 01:29 PM

Sounds fine. A ziplock bag works great for me tho. Flat, light, and hasn't leaked for me yet. Bottom line is use what works for you.
Posted by: OregonMouse

Re: liteweight map case - 02/09/17 05:13 PM

Another vote for the freezer bag!

I like to scan my maps so that the inevitable folding and refolding affects only the copy, not the original.
Posted by: Glenn Roberts

Re: liteweight map case - 02/09/17 10:49 PM

Ditto on the freezer bag. Gallon size is just right.
Posted by: BrianLe

Re: liteweight map case - 02/10/17 12:14 PM

Add me to the "ziplock bag" set of responses.

Mostly just a standard gallon ziplock. I don't know what's "normal" anymore in the hiking world, but I don't buy maps, it's easy to print them.

8-1/2" x 11" paper is just a little too long to fit in a gallon ziplock, but I pretty much always find I can trim enough on the long margins to fit it in. I backpack often enough and print enough volume of maps that I found it worth while to buy one of those paper cutters, you know, a square flat board with a hinge at one corner holding a blade with the handle on the other, you slice down guillotine style to get a consistent straight and easy cut of multiple sheets at once.

Makes it easy to fit maps and other trail data. Sometimes there's other stuff, "data book" info, "town guide" etc that fits better (again sometimes with a little help) into a quart sized ziplock.

I have also at times literally cut the spine off of trail guide books to be able to, on any given day along the trail, have just the most current few pages of that ready to hand. I'm fortunate in that I have a band saw at home to make that easy. Book pages are unfortunately typically too big for a quart sized ziplock and kind of small for a gallon sized; careful trimming sometimes makes the quart size work, other times I make do with a single fold. Quart size is particularly handy to hold and use if you can make it work.

The thing that wears out the ziplocks is repeatedly folding and unfolding them over time. I keep my ready-to-hand maps/data in one or both cargo pockets (on the thighs of) my hiking pants, and at least the gallon size and more typically the quart size too get folded this way. On a long trip (weeks or months) that folding compromises the ziplock, and if I don't replace the ziplock then at some point I'll be hiking in heavy rain or wading through tall wet grass or the like and find my maps wetting out somewhat inside.

So I periodically swap 'em for other ziplocks, either sent by mail or purchased along the way or with something I'm carrying inside the pack that doesn't need to be so water proof.

This might not be an issue for shorter trips, so --- maybe non-essential info there ... (?)

Note that if you have a fairly large map it's possible to buy 2-gallon sized ziplocks; check a big box hardware store or look online. I find them to be a little unwieldly mostly, but I've used them on occasion.

On a trip in Europe once on a lark I bought a formal, somewhat expensive German branded map case. I still have it, but just never use it and in fact rarely used it on that trip. It's very "nice", and that's part of the problem --- I don't want to try to fold it, and it's heavy. If I recall correctly, they envisioned it either being rolled up (and thus I guess stored in my pack somewhere, not too available) or hung around my neck.

For me, there are two sets of "paper" that I'm carrying (not counting t.p. ...). A small amount of very-ready-to-hand maps and trail data for the proximate day or two. And then, stored also in a ziplock deep in my pack, a combination of "maps & data for future days" as well as "other maps or reference info that I don't carry ready to hand" (but can reference in my tent or at need along the way).

Sorry for perhaps an overly long response to what's really very simple --- ziplocks are a great choice, readily available, easy to replace, so long as it's not too difficult to size your source material appropriately.
Posted by: OregonMouse

Re: liteweight map case - 02/10/17 12:43 PM

I do a lot of map/guidebook trimming, too (usually the scanned copies, not the original). Just a word of warning--don't use your sewing shears on paper! It ruins them in a hurry!
Posted by: BZH

Re: liteweight map case - 02/10/17 12:49 PM

Too add to/contrast Brian's succinct and thorough post I'll mention what I do. I typically use a quart ziplock and find a 8.5x11" printed map folded in half and trimmed of all borders fits nicely. I print my maps off of The quart bag fits nicely in my pocket and the whole map is visible (front and back of the quart bag). Additional maps are folded inside of the one that I want visible. I usually carry 2-3 high detail maps to cover my entire weekend trip and then one more lower fidelity map that covers the larger area. The stack gets folded in half, inserted in the bag then I slip my car key, drivers license, credit card, fishing license and some cash down the middle. It is my interact with and get back to society bag.
Posted by: the-gr8t-waldo

Re: liteweight map case - 02/12/17 02:56 PM

Thanks Brian and all...a lot of good points and has me thinking. I do like just rolling up the map case and stuffing it to the side pocket. After a quick visit to the big A, I see that 4mil. zip bags are out there. I'm just a bit too timid to rely on a freezer bag at this point in my hiking. I should be able to find single bags in 4mil in my travels...if not I always have Glad as my fall back. Last few trips I have been starting to worry about my map costs....and will look into printing my own- and cutting down for the hike.
Posted by: 4evrplan

Re: liteweight map case - 03/05/17 08:55 PM

For those of you that print your own. I just tried printing one off of Caltopo, and the elevation lines are unreadable. Do you use photo paper?
Posted by: wgiles

Re: liteweight map case - 03/06/17 08:01 AM

I use plain bond paper. I think that I have had that problem, but not always. It depends on the colors and line widths used in the original map.
Posted by: 4evrplan

Re: liteweight map case - 03/07/17 07:52 AM

I figured it out. I just had the printer settings wrong.