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#100585 - 07/29/08 09:28 PM WARM polarizing filter?
kevonionia Offline
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Registered: 04/17/06
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Loc: Dallas, TX
Hoya "Moose Peterson" warm polarizing filter for cameras.

Anyone use this in lieu of the one that's been around forever?

A nature photographer got Hoya to make these, since standard polarizers, beside removing unwanted reflections and giving better color saturation, also tend to "cool" or "blue" the color balance. Anyone bought into this? I need a new 58mm polarizer, and certainly don't want BOTH, so should I spend the difference between the standard 58mm Hoya polarizer, as low as $17, and the Hoya "Moose" polarizer, priced about at $55, for all that "warmth," -- and the knowledge that I've got a filter named after a large herbivore in my camera bag?

Here's a description and pic of the "Moose" on a photog's blog if you haven't seen it. (Looks the same to me, but I guess it's warmer.)
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#100586 - 07/29/08 11:22 PM Re: WARM polarizing filter? [Re: kevonionia]
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Sounds like a new way to part us photographers from our money. Who today is still shooting on film? Digital pictures are easy to adjust - if you don't like the cool effect, warm it up in your favorite image editor. I'd rather spend the extra money on fully coated optics or oversized filters.

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#100587 - 07/30/08 11:31 AM Re: WARM polarizing filter? [Re: NiytOwl]
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Not much point if you're not shooting film, in which case it would be handy for knocking back the bluish cast that routinely occurs at high altitude.

For a really good time, price a Heliopan Kasemann circular polarizer. The larger ones cost more than a lot of cameras. Nice, though <img src="/forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif" alt="" />

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Sounds like a new way to part us photographers from our money. Who today is still shooting on film? Digital pictures are easy to adjust - if you don't like the cool effect, warm it up in your favorite image editor. I'd rather spend the extra money on fully coated optics or oversized filters.
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#100588 - 07/30/08 12:12 PM Re: WARM polarizing filter? [Re: Rick_D]
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As NiytOwl says, digital has made a lot of the technique used for film obsolete. Even my little P&S Canon has settings for indoor and outdoor that will adjust for color temperature of the lighting.

This is the equivalent of setting the "white balance" on a video camera.

This filter combines a polarizer with a Wratten 81A filter, which warms up light by 200 degrees K.

Wratten filters are made by Kodak. Here is a Wikipedia article that explains the numbering system, however, the explanation for the 81A is wrong. The filter decreases the color temperature, instead of increases it. Lower color temperature means warmer-like indoor bulbs compared to outdoor bulbs (3200-3400K v. 5600K).
Wratten number explanation

Bottom line-if your using a digital camera, don't bother. For film, you could get the polarizer and a 1A separately and just screw them together.
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#110172 - 01/27/09 04:59 PM Re: WARM polarizing filter? [Re: TomD]
Becks Offline
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Registered: 01/27/09
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Loc: Switzerland
Already everything mentioned, except some details.

Filters to "warm up" the pic are no longer needed as this is done by the camera settings. cameras donīt always make the best choice (depending on the model, software and picture taken).

If you are really interested in good pics, always use a camera supporting RAW format and save the pic that way. An additional JPG is usefull for rapid broadcasting.
Purchase some good software (Adobe Lightroom as example), import the pic and optimize it until you are happy.

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